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Old 04-06-2015, 02:02 AM   #21
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I'm pretty sure Halv wasn't the only one with issues towards this video and you calling yourself a "knight", which is why we're having this talk now.
So now your saying i'm not a knight? Any other insults you want to pass along?

Its quite obvious your trolling no need to explain yourself with further trolling.

What your doing is calling someone not a knight because their useing knight powers? Does anyone else see the obvious stupidity in this duds comment?

Your mindset is that knights are only alive to support in only one way, and that this is by spamming auras. This is faulty logic and ridiculous. Knights can be supportive in other ways that are more effective then standing around just spamming auras. Thats a pretty boxed headed way of looking at the class. Anyone whos played the game knows that knights are a defensive as well as an offensive class.

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Old 04-06-2015, 02:31 AM   #22
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So now your saying i'm not a knight? Any other insults you want to pass along?

Its quite obvious your trolling no need to explain yourself with further trolling.

What your doing is calling someone not a knight because their useing knight powers? Does anyone else see the obvious stupidity in this duds comment?

Your mindset is that knights are only alive to support in only one way, and that this is by spamming auras. This is faulty logic and ridiculous. Knights can be supportive in other ways that are more effective then standing around just spamming auras. Thats a pretty boxed headed way of looking at the class. Anyone whos played the game knows that knights are a defensive as well as an offensive class.
There is a difference between trolling and constructive criticism.
You think everyone is trolling when they say things you don't want to hear.
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:39 AM   #23
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Old 04-06-2015, 02:56 AM   #24
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There is a difference between trolling and constructive criticism.
Calling someone who is a knight not a knight because they have a different way of playing is not constructive criticism but is meant as insult and equals to trolling.

Constructive criticism would be saying: We both have different ways of playing knight i may think mine is more effective then yours but were still both knights. Which is the fact.

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You think everyone is trolling when they say things you don't want to hear.
No. I think people you who say that i'm not a knight even though factually speaking i'm a knight are trolling. :]
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:04 AM   #25
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Your mindset is that knights are only alive to support in only one way, and that this is by spamming auras
No. I'm saying it's fine to deal damage as well, but for gods sake, skill something else useful for your team mates like sw. Don't give me this shit about it being nerfed. Yes it was, but it has still saved my allies countless times.
Do you know what most good players would do? They ignore the knights and go straight for mages. This is where the knights are supposed to protect them. That is your job. If you don't like that, then you're playing the wrong class. Like I said, it's fine to go knarb if you want, however seeing only pa, but ripost and gutting in your spell bar, made me cringe to no end.
Please don't misunderstand my factual statements for trolling either.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:13 AM   #26
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Calling someone who is a knight, not a knight because they have a different way of playing is not constructive criticism but is meant as insult and equals to trolling.

Constructive criticism would be saying: We both have different ways of playing knight i may think mine is more effective then yours but were still both knights. Which is the fact.
speaking i'm a knight are trolling. :]
I don't think you fully understand what constructive criticism is.

Yes, you are a knight.
Yes, it is beneficial for knights to deal damage.
No, you are not an effective knight.
No, knights should never be without auras.

We aren't saying you don't have the freedom to play however you want, we are saying you're not effective compared to a knight that has support spells.
Just make a barb.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:32 AM   #27
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Do you know what most good players would do? They ignore the knights and go straight for mages. This is where the knights are supposed to protect them. That is your job.
Shield wall last 10 seconds at 50% damage resistance. Lets say a barb hits 1500 or 2000k. That is 750 or 1000k and you know those op barbs hit very fast and hard. So they can hit about five times within those 10 seconds and tow handed weapons hit even harder with those barb damage buffs. And their may be more then one hitting your conjur. Lets see: 5 x 750 is 3750 and 5 x 1000 is 5000. Now what conjur has that much hp? This is why i don't use sw. Its ineffective in battle. Now i know we may differ in opinion on this, but this is only one example of many.

Also, the conjur may get roared or kicked within those 10 seconds in which case the sw is gone pretty much and the conjur is dead. Or you can start killing the barb, immobilizing it, slowing it down a bit maybe. Getting the barbs attention on you.

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If you don't like that, then you're playing the wrong class. Like I said, it's fine to go knarb if you want, however seeing only pa, but ripost and gutting in your spell bar, made me cringe to no end.
Please don't misunderstand my factual statements for trolling either.
Knight is the right class for this kind of strategy. Ripost is to get rid of the threat quicker. Anyways you assume that theres a barb with me so no need to skill offensive stance or do more damage? Also, doing more damage is helpful when trying to bring a door down as quickly as possible.

I will add also that smart conjurs skill sanctuary so that if a barb is chasing you you can cast and by the time the sect is over the UM is also over and the knights can finish the job by knocking, immobilizing, riposting, cutting, and so on. :P

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Old 04-06-2015, 03:39 AM   #28
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I don't think you fully understand what constructive criticism is.

Yes, you are a knight.
Yes, it is beneficial for knights to deal damage.
No, you are not an effective knight.
No, knights should never be without auras.

We aren't saying you don't have the freedom to play however you want, we are saying you're not effective compared to a knight that has support spells.
Just make a barb.
Thats only a matter of opinion Kyrenis. Remember that a knight can't cast everything at once and all those auras cost lots of mana. And while your casting all your auras i'm already killing your allies, immobilizing you, and knocking known your other allies.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:45 AM   #29
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Thats only a matter of opinion Kyrenis.
No, it is a fact.

The main element that makes the class useful in RvR situations is the area support. Take that away and you are just a barb with minor DPS.

There is no reason not to have auras since they fit into nearly any knarb setup with relative ease.
Here is an example of a blunt "knarb" setup I have been using for months.
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:25 AM   #30
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No, it is a fact.
Thats not a fact thats an opinion, but sense you called it a fact wheres your proof?

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The main element that makes the class useful in RvR situations is the area support. Take that away and you are just a barb with minor DPS.
Knights have two knocks, precise block which in my opinion has a supporting affect to allies. Meaning they act as distractions from your allies. Like an enemy my try to immobilize you by casting different spells but by blocking at that right essential time their spells are wasted, go into cooldown, and this spell cannot be casted on your ally until the cooldown is finish because it was wasted on you.

Barbs don't have defense support, protect ally, and heal ally, these are all supportive to allies. And again there are other ways to support allies like going on the offensive. Sometimes the best defence is the best offence. I thought you would have gotten this by now.

Your so stuck on what you think knights should do that you don't see what they can do. Your shortcutting the class. So as you see you are wrong.

In my opinion when it comes to fort fights i think that by not having these auras it actually makes knights more useful and active in rvr because their engaging the enemy in combat more.

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