Conjuror shortage

[craiyzee]

Is this another "let blame conjurers for our problems" thread. Because they're kinda getting boring. Everybody can change classes as they like, and play as often as they like.
I don't blame you for critisizing warjurers because they annoy me too, but there have been a couple of time when I have been solo leveling (due to the lack of leveling partners) and someone has told me to get my butt over to a fort war, and then critisize me for being a warjurer, but most of the time I'm full support.
Anyways, as I was writing this I lost my point, so if I make no sense just ignore me... because... I'm bored and need something to do.

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by marchalain

As far as I know about barbs... Yup, they get rp and xp from onslaught... Warlocks don't give too much mana, let's be serious. They ask for it mostly, and they want it now, because of mana cost on their spells.
Every single conju has been left away on hunts, we all have been in that situation.
And I don't know if it has changed a lot or not, but 5 days ago almost no knight rush to block spells and stop barbs.
Marksmans are gods now, over rest of mortals. Max damage and nice protections, they can play as ranged barbs. They don't have to care about anything but mana!
Hunters will be next gods in early-medium future. Just look who is playing that char. And they got confuse, that hurts more than permanent criticism and loop-sight over conju's work!

No class deserve to be blamed, and all of them can fail, it's us who fails! Pretending that one class plays nice all the time (or a player) is just wrong. Shit happens to all of us! Selfcriticism helps more to improve your game and help your realm than going out to criticize rest of the people, because of this or that. But big egos don't want to accept that. If they died it could not be because of their fault!

You never know what's going on in other's player char (Lag, cooldown, configs to test something, lvling template, dizzyness, etc).

But with conjis everybody has an opinion to be expressed and it gets tiring to death in long term.

On the other hand there's a lot of ppl playing conjuror as if they are warlock, and in fort wars it sucks. Sometimes it's a reaction over so many criticism, sometimes it is just they don't stop, listen and test.

Lag is getting healing awful and we got frustrated too.
We can't affect to war cause we stay stucked for several seconds. Everybody does, but, as any other class char, you try to think which skills you would need to keep alive and kill your enemy and wait until it "refresh", with conji maybe your healing target maybe rushed or went back and he is dead. After three deads you don't want to get your allies counting on healings you can't make. They won't expect anything from you if you are not there, so they will play another manner that will avoid death risk.

All conjurors (at least, those who play mainly this char) have beeing advancing all this to community on the forum, and it's true, most of the people got profit of it to blame again conjurors, and say something like: "you leech all around"; "you want to make an army unbeatable with all your buffs, and be untouchable...", as a "hit the conji campaign".

We don't get xp, nor rp if we don't max damage skills...

Well, here we are. Conjurors becoming warjurors or disappearing. Shame.

I think too many influence from archers on changes...
There's a group of players that influence much more than the rest with their comments on forums and they're listened way more than the rest of us (personality, knowledge about the game, testing work, position on ranks...). And I'm sorry guys, but maybe you unbalance the game with your influence...


P.S.- Some conjurors sucks, yes, I agree, but not more than rest of players/chars. It's just they are important on fort wars.

P.S2.- Sorry for such a long text. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.

Edited: Rp for xp mistake.

[LuthienNenharma]

I can only talk about myself now... I enjoyed the playing of my conjurer very much until they changed smth in the system. Now you have to heal and give mana in the right moment, not like before.
-> In a hunting party you get to know very fast that the group wont wait for you if there is enemy. So you started to heal them and give mana from the distance. Now you can behappy if you get a few(!) rp. The same with lvling.
You have to give it in the fight, not before or after.
Because of that fort wars are more attractive? - Nah. You get there more rp because of the areaspells, but when the hp bug or anything else is laggy, it is hard to heal the right ppl.
So everything was easier for us before this update.
I got frustrated of the less rp/xp for my work. I always spent all of my mana in a fight for the other players.

Well, here we are. Conjurors becoming warjurors or disappearing. Shame.

When you realize that you should lvl/hunt with a zarkit/mental/staff mastery you get frustrated. I liked to support the ppl with mana and health, it helps them more as my attack on mobs or enemy. When you have skilled those trees you wont be able to lvl in groups like before, you have not the mana for it. Solo lvling like a warjurer? Nothing for me... I stopped with my Conjurer for some time, too.

[Arkenion]

Originally Posted by LuthienNenharma

(...) they changed smth in the system. Now you have to heal and give mana in the right moment, not like before.
-> In a hunting party you get to know very fast that the group wont wait for you if there is enemy. So you started to heal them and give mana from the distance. Now you can behappy if you get a few(!) rp.

I experienced that too. I was hunting in Alsius with Valour and he barely got any RP (though he wanted them - that RP-addict )
Same with levelling.. I was levelling with a conjuror in my clan and even although he had mana communion and regen for me, he didn't always receive experience points. (My level was higher than his, but he told me that he has the same problems with players at his level)
After that, I told him to get some buffs like bear strength, bless.. Then he sometimes got XP. :/

[Valorius]

I have no complaints with syrtis conjuror corps. I think they're great.

[G40st]

I dont see a shortage of conjurers, i see a shortage of good conjurers

At the same time, i see a increasing amount of warjurers because of the current xp system. I dont like this, a conjurer is not built for offensive action, you might get lucky sometimes like gigo but, a conjurers roll is to be the buffer/healer of the game if people dont understand this then well... Maybe you should have chosen warlock in the first place

Please NGD, make so the xp system works for support conjurers again. I dont need anymore zarkits in my field of vision, i dont need anymore conjurers running into enemy lines and comming back screaming VIDA. I just want more conjurers doing what conjurers should do, saving peoples asses.

// Hp

[DkySven]

I remember that conju who asked us for mana......... But yes this problem is caused by the current xp system.

[Heglin]

Originally Posted by G40st

I dont see a shortage of conjurers, i see a shortage of good conjurers

At the same time, i see a increasing amount of warjurers because of the current xp system. I dont like this, a conjurer is not built for offensive action, you might get lucky sometimes like gigo but, a conjurers roll is to be the buffer/healer of the game if people dont understand this then well... Maybe you should have chosen warlock in the first place

Please NGD, make so the xp system works for support conjurers again. I dont need anymore zarkits in my field of vision, i dont need anymore conjurers running into enemy lines and comming back screaming VIDA. I just want more conjurers doing what conjurers should do, saving peoples asses.

// Hp

I lvl my conju without zarkit, it makes me lvl slower but it helps other players lvl faster and since i already have a char at lvl 50 it does'nt matter much if my conju takes some time. If conjus only lvl as "warjurers" they will have huge problems playing a support role at lvl 50. Good conjus have a huge impact on battles and "warjurers" only look like warlocks with a crappy setup at wars.

[Leadoffhitter]

Originally Posted by asdfghs

I remember that conju who asked us for mana......... But yes this problem is caused by the current xp system.

Happened to me 5 days ago, when I decided to stop playing full-time conjuror. (lag, no possibility to help around...)

I can understand that ppl don't heal because they were leveling and they didn't train for it, but... asking for mana? It surprises me, no matter how many times I hear it. But I suppose we all makes mistakes at the beggining and it's just a natural learning proccess.

[magnet]

I'll gladly play another player's Conjurer and let him play my Warlock . Chalo, are you up to? I will heal you and you can get tons of kills with Elrik! (I will make sure to cast Divine Intervention and give you mana too ).