Now it all makes sense...

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by GIGO305

not depresion i know these ppl sense elementary! they just went from being normal to just friking cuting them selvs for fun...

Gigo, you have to realize that when people do these things 9 times out of 10 its not because they want to look cool.

Sometime people can only relate to the world by expressing themselves through language, music, style of cloths, and actions. If they view the world as bad, and see no hope how do you think their are going to act in the world?

There is a reason why people feel apathy, or depressed you know. Sometimes it a chemical imbalance in the brain, sometimes its because the home life of the individual isn't all that great, sometimes its because when they try to communicate to the people around them no one understands them, and sometimes its because people have treated them bad and then take on those feelings that others express and start to believe it and act as what others see them as.

Depression is real Gigo, but not all of them are depressed. Some just believe the world is messed and and this is their way of rebelling against a messed up world.

Either way Gigo you need to open up your mind man...

[ArcticWolf]

There are ups and downs in life, and I can tell you that you need both to feel what's "being alive". Sometimes the world crumbles down for you, you see that the world goes on, life goes on and no one notices that something terribly bad happened to you... Then you realize that life "goes on" because YOU make it go on. Everything that you do, think and see is the result of the effort of billons of people that have a hope on life.

I'm agnostic, and I also think there's nothing after life, but the bitter end. Life has a special value for me, I don't want to waste it and I try to live each moment as it was the last one. Where's my hope, you may be thinking... I just think that there will be others after you, and it's your duty to help them (as our parents did). The only way you'll live after you return to ashes is on the acomplishments of the next generation, and the next generation of the next generation :P

Originally Posted by magnet

Xeph, you switched back to Ignis? Oo

Maaaaaaaaybe.

[DkySven]

Well said Xeph.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

There are ups and downs in life, and I can tell you that you need both to feel what's "being alive". Sometimes the world crumbles down for you, you see that the world goes on, life goes on and no one notices that something terribly bad happened to you... Then you realize that life "goes on" because YOU make it go on...

You know you really need to take a class in sociology or psychology. Because you would learn that no matter what you do, if you don't fit within the social standards of society, you cannot do much.

Thus the feelings of depression, anger and hopelessness.

You should get out of that IT schooling and get into understanding humanity and human problems - thats the future.

For soon computers will be based on script activities and there will be no need for IT, just programmers. Hell its almost that way now.

But there will always be problems with humans that need fixing that a computer will never be able to figure out...

[ArcticWolf]

Hell_bound, informatics is to computers the same as astronomy to telescopes (that's a quote, not my words). IT is the science that studies the flux and management of information, how to make it work, how to manage systems... Computers are handy to us, but are the same to mathematicians, physicians and chemical engineers, just tools that calculate accurately and help you with your tasks, no more.

Human behaviour is not my thing, as you already noticed. You see, I see myself as a boy who was left out of the society, made apart by almost everyone because of thinking, acting or speaking in a different way, but through the years I met people who are really cool and accept you even if you're different. Those who I befriend to made me realize that there's hope even when you don't see it.

I grew in a very different social context than most of the ones that got to know me, but it doesn't mean I won't fit in the society. But it means that I'm not the most suited up to classify or study human behaviour. I understand machines more than I can understand any person in this world.

PS: The career I'm doing is a different kind of I.T. than you have on the States. You learn how to analyze a system, information and, of course, programming. Somebody has to do those scripts and develop the cutting-edge technology, and I want to be the one.

[mann2411]

i've been told that the reason people cut themselves or some is becaues it releases some like chemical or something like that that's meant to make you feeel happy like eating choclate or something like that so i told her instead of cutting yourself just eat some choclate

[Static_Fang]

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Because you would learn that no matter what you do, if you don't fit within the social standards of society, you cannot do much.
Thus the feelings of depression, anger and hopelessness...

People: I've just been fit into a category....but its not 100% correct...Wheres the spiders and games? Oo

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

... Human behaviour is not my thing, as you already noticed. You see, I see myself as a boy who was left out of the society, made apart by almost everyone because of thinking, acting or speaking in a different way, but through the years I met people who are really cool and accept you even if you're different. Those who I befriend to made me realize that there's hope even when you don't see it.

I grew in a very different social context than most of the ones that got to know me, but it doesn't mean I won't fit in the society. But it means that I'm not the most suited up to classify or study human behaviour.

If this story is true, that some how you have felt alienated from others then you have a unique perspective on how some groups of people alienate others.

Not only this, but you also understand the feelings that occur within individuals that have been alienated. For example, you say "I see myself as a boy who was left out of the society made apart by almost everyone because of thinking, acting or speaking in a different way" or "I grew in a very different social context than most of the ones that got to know me".

What I think is going on is that you do not like what has happened in the past and thus looking back on those days makes you sad and angry. But that is only because of the rejection you felt and still fell today. This is also why you like computers - they don't talk back, they don't judge and you can control them.

Looking in the mirror of one's life is always hard and what is harder is to see how the actions of others create things within us that we are not willing to see, which also changes not only our outlook on the world but also how we view ourselves and act towards others and self.

However, since you are unable to do this now - I can see why you feel that you are not a person who believes that human behavior is not your thing...

[ArcticWolf]

Originally Posted by mann2411

i've been told that the reason people cut themselves or some is becaues it releases some like chemical or something like that that's meant to make you feeel happy like eating choclate or something like that so i told her instead of cutting yourself just eat some choclate

Endorphin, dopamine and serotonin are responsible of your emotional condition. An abnormal diet, stress and strange dna configuration may affect people differently in response of the same stimuli.


@Hell: True, and even if I have a different point of view about life, it's a completely biased one. Yes, my childhood was horrible indeed, but now I feel good because the same guys who were treating me bad me are now living a tough life, trying to work for two dollars while I'm studying what I like.

On the other hand, computers do what you want, and if they make a mistake it's your fault. They're just tools, nothing more.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

... Yes, my childhood was horrible indeed, but now I feel good because the same guys who were treating me bad me are now living a tough life, trying to work for two dollars while I'm studying what I like...

LOL, the worst of the hell hounds live within you. Do you know it's a virtue to forgive?

Yes, a boy soon to be a man will look upon a subset of the population with hate because of what happened to him as a child.

And thus your vision and reason will be dim until you learn the virtue of forgiveness.