For those who thought....

[Angel_de_Combate]

Hmmm i like having the last word...

Originally Posted by hell_bound

I have been told this a few times before... some enjoy such conversations and others it confuses or threatens them...

Your ideas..thoughts..dont threaten me in the slightest, i enjoy them..i love asking questions..when i was a little girl it drove my mum nuts lol..good job we only converse in this forum H_B, because if it was RL..id drive you nuts too :P

Oh yeah i have a poem for you..i was going to make a separate thread..but ill post it here.



The philosopher

"Enough of thought, philosopher!
Too long hast thou been dreaming
Unlightened, in this chamber drear,
While summer's sun is beaming!
Space - sweeping soul, what sad refrain
Concludes thy musings once again?

"Oh, for the time when I shall sleep
Without identity,
And never care how rain may steep,
Or snow may cover me!
No promised heaven, these wild desires,
Could all, or half fulfil;
No threathened hell, with quenchless fires,
Subdue this quenchless will!"

"So said I, and still say the same;
Still, to my death, will say -
Three gods, within this little frame,
Are warring night and day;
Heaven could not hold them all, and yet
They all are held in me;
And must be mine till I forget
My present entity!
Oh, for the time, when in my breast
Their struggles will be o'er!
Oh, for the day, when I shall rest,
And never suffer more!"

"I saw a spirit, standing, man,
Where thou dost stand - an hour ago,
And round his feet three rivers ran,
Of equal depth, and equal flow -
"A golden stream - and one like blood;
And one like sapphire, seemed to be;
But, where they joined their triple flood
It tumbled in an inky sea.

The spirit sent his dazzling gaze
Down through that ocean's gloomy night
Then, kindling all, with sudden blaze,
The glad deep sparkled wide and bright -
White as the sun, far, far more fair
Than its divided sources were!"

"And even for that spirit, seer,
I've watched and sought my life - time long;
Sought him in heaven, hell, earth and air -
An endless search, and always wrong!
Had I but seen his glorious eye
Once light the clouds that wilder me,
I ne'er had raised this coward cry
To cease to think and cease to be;
I ne'er had called oblivion blest,
Nor, stretching eager hands to death,
Implored to change for senseless rest
This sentient soul, this living breath -
Oh, let me die - that power and will
Their cruel strife may close;
And conquered good, and conquering ill
Be lost in one repose!"

Emily Jane Brontë

It just seemed appropriate. Take care

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Xephandor

I was thinking about that just a minute ago. They look similar, but when you take into account that Obama and Bush have both the standard American phenotype in their bloodlines it's not so strange to think that.

The picture doesn't simbolize the previous statement, though. In my opinion, it's about what, sadly, is true about politicians: they look, speak and act all the same no matter their skin colour, party or religion.

then why would obama close what the previous opened?
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-22-voa7.cfm

It's new times, I say give obama a chance, politicians have a way of speaking their way out of different situations, Obama can speak, but I think america will change with this guy as a president.

As for the picture, they don't really look alike, but when a picture morphing them like that has been seen, some might be fooled into thinking this.

However even if they do remember that you cannot tell anything from a person by looking at them, as he said in his speech, about ten years ago he would have a hard time getting a decent job in the area where he was now standing.

[Syd_Vicious]

With technology these days you can morph anyone to look/resemble almost anything, doesn't mean its true. I think the responses really just show those who make assumptions or changes previously held assumptions, those who defend their previous/current assumptions and those who remain objective.

Or if you are really just interested at what some ppl look like morphed together I like the following site as they blend, warp and fiddle with it and show you different results:

http://celebritymorphing.blip.tv/rss

[Xero_Aurion]

Ughhh...*feels like a zombie trying to take all this in*

*does a facepalm while thinking*

Okay in a nutshell...

Live your life the way you want it, don't make any decisions you're unaware about...if something happens then you'll obviously do something to change it. Until then keep living your life the way you'd like to. :P

The End.
End of Story
On to the next chapter! >.<

Pretty simple eh? Your life is what you <--- (biggest keyword ever) make it.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Xero_Aurion

... Pretty simple eh? Your life is what you <--- (biggest keyword ever) make it.

This is the biggest myth that was ever created and it was created to serve the captains industry and capitalism, especially so when we look at credit markets.

To prove that this ideas is false: just look at any group of people that have a minority status within a nation or state.

Also all societies have rules, one cannot break the rules and expect to be kept within society?

The truth is individually we are products of society, as long as you do as society tells you - you will find mobility, but you better hope that your skin color, your weight, your sex, your age and your sexuality all meet the criteria of those that would hold power over you. For if not you will be limited in your mobility.

[Llayne]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

OMG! It's not the president that runs the show in the US! They're all the same because they are insignificant! And OMG THE SKY IS BLUE! Today is full of surprises!

Welcome to the world, have a seat, enjoy the killing.

It's people that think this way that allowed George W Bush to be elected. Tell all the people that have lost loved ones in his wars that it doesn't matter...

[Miraculix]

Originally Posted by Kaliek

It's people that think this way that allowed George W Bush to be elected.

No, that's a different think. You're thinking of apathy. I'm talking about having a grip of reality.

You think things would be different if Al Gore was elected? Or any other Democratic tool? You think it was him that made the call on the mass murders US carried out during his presidency? Do I need to remind you on the mass murders Bill Clinton presided?

Hell, do you even think he was legitimately elected? Both times?

It's people who actually fall for this Douche & Turd puppet show that get your monkeys elected.

[Llayne]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

You think things would be different if Al Gore was elected?

Yes I do and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

Hell, do you even think he was legitimately elected? Both times?

No but enough people stayed home to get him close enough to grab it.

If we don't go out and vote and take a position of 'It doesn't matter anyways' we make it all too easy for the worst among us to grab power. It's what they want actually.

[Miraculix]

I'm not of the "Don't bother voting" mentality. Quite the opposite, I go to extreme lengths to vote (in my country you can only vote in the place you declare as your permanent residence, and I'm rarely there these last few years) and get others to vote.

But honestly, if I was living in the US, I don't know what I would do, seeing as anything that strays too much from the norm is quickly labeled as communist/terroristic or a threat to the "American way of life", and is quickly made illegal. The differences in the two big parties are barely fooling anyone. It's pretty much the same as in Europe with the two poles being Social-democrats and Conservatives (names may vary from country to country, agenda is the same). Only at least here we haven't started banning every other party yet.

Swapping power from one pole to the other is there only to calm the masses down, to give them a false hope of change after periods of extreme suppression. No real change will be made to society through these means, not in capitalism. But nice reasoning, "You're a fool if you disagree with me". No wonder you actually think Al Gore would make your country a better place.

[_dracus_]

Originally Posted by Miraculix

I'm not of the "Don't bother voting" mentality. Quite the opposite, I go to extreme lengths to vote (in my country you can only vote in the place you declare as your permanent residence, and I'm rarely there these last few years) and get others to vote.

But honestly, if I was living in the US, I don't know what I would do, seeing as anything that strays too much from the norm is quickly labeled as communist/terroristic or a threat to the "American way of life", and is quickly made illegal. The differences in the two big parties are barely fooling anyone. It's pretty much the same as in Europe with the two poles being Social-democrats and Conservatives (names may vary from country to country, agenda is the same). Only at least here we haven't started banning every other party yet.

Swapping power from one pole to the other is there only to calm the masses down, to give them a false hope of change after periods of extreme suppression. No real change will be made to society through these means, not in capitalism. But nice reasoning, "You're a fool if you disagree with me". No wonder you actually think Al Gore would make your country a better place.

All politicians are liars, they fool the people to get elected then they do shit. Really in France we had the right and the left wing to command our country for long years and the results are they are both bad. Maybe left wing did at least improve some things with death penalty removal (guillotine eurk ... ). On the economic side they do shit, I know economy is hard to forecast. Even in capitalist system French politician don't understand a single thing, I'm just disgust by what they are doing. The only thing is that both wing do shit but not the same way.

I'm pretty sure Al Gore wouldn't have done the same mistake than Bush, I'm not convince he would have attack Irak, but he would have done other mistakes

No gods, No masters!