Warriors broken? - Page 3

UmarilsStillHere · 06-05-2009, 07:20 PM

I used to use Blunt/Peirce combo, Blunt for Forcefull, Ribs, The Passive, Ms and Thunder strike, Peirce just for Balestra, Well Since Balestra and Ribs went down the tubes Spear is only realy usefull for hitting someone if your getting poistionlag, and even then not much better than a range 0 (transtalion -6) range wep.

Now I use Slash/Blunt, I cant say I prefer it to my old setup, and I was always a Sc hater but Im not going to let a little thing like my morals stop a decent setup, Without the 100%dmg from Ribs (what I used it for mainly, the 4sec imob is just a bonus) It simply cant do the kind of damage it used to, and blunt was always bottem of the dmg rack anyway.

This has been said before but the combo of Position lag, heavily Nerfed CC spells, and +20% speed have killed the warrior.

Charly_Metal · 06-05-2009, 08:21 PM

Well, warriors aren't totally ruined, but we do have a hard time trying to hit someone (especially fast running hunters) due to the positioning bug.

In Ra, many barbs deleted all areas from their configs and began to use super-normal attacks (me included).

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ArchmagusArcana · 06-05-2009, 09:08 PM

1500 normal hit with only Brutal Impacts, how? Are all items epic with extra damage/str? I don't see how that is possible without berserk+colossus.

Znurre · 06-06-2009, 12:03 AM

If you look at the picture you are talking about, you can see two damages in the log.
They are differing with about 50 damage.
I guess they were made with Thirst for blood, 2 last hits.

That also explains why you don't see the buff as active.

I can get up to 1.2k hits on mages with only Thirst for blood, and no other buff.
I have 102 strength, I think.

Remember that the additional damage provided by TFB (250 damage on lvl 5) ignores all defense.

A setup built for strength and damage, combined with epic weapons/armors with loads of damage/strength bonuses... could probably make your normal hits cause 2k and further.

Kyrottimus · 06-06-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd_Vicious

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Since my barb is crippled now can I get a free wheel chair from the alsius Veterans Affairs? Because at this point im only one click from an uninstall. Also Kyro I would advise you to not buy anytype of box from NGD, they are all craptastic. Unless you have 6 characters you wont get anything you probably would want.

Duly noted.

Ok, if anyone has any decent level 49-50 special or better slow 2h slashing in Horus Alsius look me up. I might have some good trade items (especially if you're a mage).

Until then I'll have to live with a Korbus lvl 49 generic great claymore I guess.

But yeah, I've talked to a few barbs in realm who've gotten knight weapons in plat boxes so that stopped me pretty quick.

Iacobus · 06-06-2009, 02:13 AM

Totally ruined in my opinion. It's really frustrating to play with a warrior in the actual state of the game.

Angelwinged_Devil · 06-07-2009, 04:24 PM

not to mention the range problems with spears there already is, I'll probably have to change my experience with the range :/

UmarilsStillHere · 06-07-2009, 09:05 PM

Im trying out a max 2H setup, so with level 5 Spiritual I can now most of the time get a hit every 30 sec =D

Honestly, Its not "that bad" to me, most of the time Im fine with it, but I know others who are getting it far worse, eg, telling me Im hitting a mob from 10m away, or get hit my blaze even though on their screen they are 6-7 meters behind the mage.

Angelwinged_Devil · 06-07-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril

Im trying out a max 2H setup, so with level 5 Spiritual I can now most of the time get a hit every 30 sec =D

Honestly, Its not "that bad" to me, most of the time Im fine with it, but I know others who are getting it far worse, eg, telling me Im hitting a mob from 10m away, or get hit my blaze even though on their screen they are 6-7 meters behind the mage.

sometimes I get hit by a barb ten meters away

Torin_Ironfist · 06-08-2009, 02:26 AM

I think the worst part about the position bug is when you see maybe 12 enemies grouped together on your screen. Good time for an area? Wrong, turns out they were in completely different spots to the server so you just wasted your area on 3 people.

View Poll Results: Are warriors currently broken?
Yes, positioning bugs and undefined issues with 1.0.6 have ruined warriors.	63	84.00%
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06-05-2009, 07:20 PM	#21
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	I used to use Blunt/Peirce combo, Blunt for Forcefull, Ribs, The Passive, Ms and Thunder strike, Peirce just for Balestra, Well Since Balestra and Ribs went down the tubes Spear is only realy usefull for hitting someone if your getting poistionlag, and even then not much better than a range 0 (transtalion -6) range wep. Now I use Slash/Blunt, I cant say I prefer it to my old setup, and I was always a Sc hater but Im not going to let a little thing like my morals stop a decent setup, Without the 100%dmg from Ribs (what I used it for mainly, the 4sec imob is just a bonus) It simply cant do the kind of damage it used to, and blunt was always bottem of the dmg rack anyway. This has been said before but the combo of Position lag, heavily Nerfed CC spells, and +20% speed have killed the warrior. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

06-05-2009, 08:21 PM	#22
Charly_Metal Master Join Date: May 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 341	Well, warriors aren't totally ruined, but we do have a hard time trying to hit someone (especially fast running hunters) due to the positioning bug. In Ra, many barbs deleted all areas from their configs and began to use super-normal attacks (me included). http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...6&postcount=23 http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...0&postcount=34 http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...postcount=1114 Welcome to Normal-Land!! __________________ Charles Darken Bárbaro ║ Dankar Cazador ║ Charles Darksoul Brujo

06-05-2009, 09:08 PM	#23
ArchmagusArcana Master Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 357	1500 normal hit with only Brutal Impacts, how? Are all items epic with extra damage/str? I don't see how that is possible without berserk+colossus. __________________ Alsirian Legion Horus: Wulfgar Heartsfang 50 barb: Arcan Heartsfang 50 Lock RA: Drakonklenok 50 Knight

06-06-2009, 12:03 AM	#24
Znurre Marquis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RA Posts: 1,897	If you look at the picture you are talking about, you can see two damages in the log. They are differing with about 50 damage. I guess they were made with Thirst for blood, 2 last hits. That also explains why you don't see the buff as active. I can get up to 1.2k hits on mages with only Thirst for blood, and no other buff. I have 102 strength, I think. Remember that the additional damage provided by TFB (250 damage on lvl 5) ignores all defense. A setup built for strength and damage, combined with epic weapons/armors with loads of damage/strength bonuses... could probably make your normal hits cause 2k and further. __________________ Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it. http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg

06-06-2009, 02:13 AM	#26
Iacobus Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 91	Totally ruined in my opinion. It's really frustrating to play with a warrior in the actual state of the game. __________________ " La Fuerza es el derecho de las Bestias" - Marco Tulio Ciceron " El amor es lo unico que crece cuando se reparte"- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

06-07-2009, 04:24 PM	#27
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	not to mention the range problems with spears there already is, I'll probably have to change my experience with the range :/

06-07-2009, 09:05 PM	#28
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Im trying out a max 2H setup, so with level 5 Spiritual I can now most of the time get a hit every 30 sec =D Honestly, Its not "that bad" to me, most of the time Im fine with it, but I know others who are getting it far worse, eg, telling me Im hitting a mob from 10m away, or get hit my blaze even though on their screen they are 6-7 meters behind the mage. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

06-08-2009, 02:26 AM	#30
Torin_Ironfist Secondary account Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome Posts: 212	I think the worst part about the position bug is when you see maybe 12 enemies grouped together on your screen. Good time for an area? Wrong, turns out they were in completely different spots to the server so you just wasted your area on 3 people.