New balancing for warriors since last update? - Page 3

Znurre · 04-20-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by twiistedkaos

Well, technically they should be slower, they use heavier weapons, but right now it's too slow. Instead of weapon speed / 1.5 for warriors, maybe weapon speed / 2, they would still be naturually slowerer than a mage or an archer, but they should be.

Yes and add an extra +100 damage to the barbarian.
That might do it.

twiistedkaos · 04-20-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Znurre

Yes and add an extra +100 damage to the barbarian.
That might do it.

Nah, barbarians do enough damage as is. All they really need is more speed, and maybe their normal HP back. But that may be pushing it :P.

Znurre · 04-20-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by twiistedkaos

Nah, barbarians do enough damage as is. All they really need is more speed, and maybe their normal HP back. But that may be pushing it :P.

Okay then

I agree with you.
But the HP is not really a big problem for me as brabraian, I think that's more problem for the knights.

But please make tthe barbarian weapon speed faster

NightTwix · 04-20-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by twiistedkaos

Well, technically they should be slower, they use heavier weapons, but right now it's too slow. Instead of weapon speed / 1.5 for warriors, maybe weapon speed / 2, they would still be naturually slowerer than a mage or an archer, but they should be.

no thats wrong.
heavy weapons ARE slower already. thats y they are slow in the description.
a trained warrior should be equally fast as a trained mage/archer!

it doesnt make sense the way it is.
if spells are too fast or to powerful, raise the cast time or weaken them (i dont really have to tell u how to balance)
but messing around with the basic is not a good idea

Znurre · 04-20-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NightTwix

no thats wrong.
heavy weapons ARE slower already. thats y they are slow in the description.
a trained warrior should be equally fast as a trained mage/archer!

it doesnt make sense the way it is.
if spells are too fast or to powerful, raise the cast time or weaken them (i dont really have to tell u how to balance)
but messing around with the basic is not a good idea

Nice NightTwix!
You are so right, I love you (besides in war).

Please, can someone from NGD respond to this thread, so we know if they have even noticed this topic and answer about how this will be solved?

scaramanga · 04-20-2007, 04:05 PM

Seriously, if i were part of NGD, i wouldn't answer to threads with ridiculous insults like this at all.

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Originally Posted by bigjim

I think one of the main the developers that develops the spells is a Warlock because it seems like most of the other classes has been weakened a great deal.

Tyr · 04-20-2007, 05:49 PM

NGD most likely will not respond to this thread as only a few has defined the problem and not whined or complained. If you truly want the devs to acknowledge that there is a problem the approach needs to change. Try writing it up by defining the problem (more then casting is too slow) and describe how the overall balance has been affect (again more then barbarian are the weakest class now). I personally would not add a resolution because who likes to be told how to do their job but that is just me. If a resolution is going to be suggested remember 99% of the time "back the way it was is not a resolution". Writing up this will have a higher probability of getting a response.

G40st · 04-20-2007, 07:35 PM

I don't see any difference with my barbarian when im fighting.
But it maybe that im used to my archer so that i can't see the effect on the weapon speed.
Because my barb is doing skills at the same rate as my archer so what's all the fuzz about

Us archers have been fighting like this all along so why not at least try it for a while and then maybe plead to NGD to change this because now we archers and mages finally can get the edge in Close Combat

Peace Out

Valkyria - Dwarf Marksman of Valhalla Freedom Fighters

c0wb0y · 05-01-2007, 05:15 AM

Hello To those who set the balance in this game. I just would like to share with you what a day of trainning is like for a knight now. humm you know now that we have balance hee hee right. I have been trainning as hard as I can for weeks . but still the same level. Why you ask or maybe you smuggly say try harder. Well I start a day at the beach I kill about 10 monster and an elf arch shows up kills me with no fear of me killing him. me kill him what a laugh. so than I go to the cem. and kill afew ghost maybe 10 or 12 than and arch shows up and kills me . with no fear of me killing him. Than I go to the mount where I kill 10 0r 15 monsters and you guest it and archer shows up and kills me . with no fear of me again. than I go to prozo where I kill a few snakes and ???/ yep thats right an archer shows up and yes I die . lets see wasn't archers suppose to fear fighting a knight one on one . lets go even better I'm high level knight and I get killed by low level archers 1on1 dose that seem right . why can't I level couse I'm to busy dieing all the time I have nowhere I can go to do this with out you guessed an archer showing up and killing me. Balance humm looking through the eye of all history wasn't archers weaker than knights at one on one fighting in close I can see the eadge go to an acher at distance but right up on ya . thats crazy. so why don't you work on fixing this right . barbs are for close in attacking .let them do what they need to .[ knights are for protecting range units } let us do our jobs to knights don't as a rule care about rp as much as protecting the range units } guess what they don't need us the don't fear us I just go and sit who would care . only the guy who want our rp which I give out freely it seems . I can't protect myself I can't run as you know knigts are the slowest movers on the game .I cna't fight back couse I can't get close and even if I do some spell has me standing like a stone. SO what I want is for you to tell me and the others just what do you tthink we are for or should do , where do we train? who do we fight . do we just sit and let range units get rp or should we act like for thier shakes that are tring to fight them???? Please tell me why knights are a part of this game I would hate to think this is the way it will be from now on.
I loved this game before the so called balance or as the players know it the big Joke I await an answer to those things I ask I really would like to know what to do . Please don't let the knights fade away and only have ranged it would kill the game I love so much jokes over guys what ya say ?

surak · 05-01-2007, 05:18 AM

c0wb0w, please post this message only once. And please use some text formatting, it's unreadable.

04-20-2007, 05:49 PM	#27
Tyr Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	NGD most likely will not respond to this thread as only a few has defined the problem and not whined or complained. If you truly want the devs to acknowledge that there is a problem the approach needs to change. Try writing it up by defining the problem (more then casting is too slow) and describe how the overall balance has been affect (again more then barbarian are the weakest class now). I personally would not add a resolution because who likes to be told how to do their job but that is just me. If a resolution is going to be suggested remember 99% of the time "back the way it was is not a resolution". Writing up this will have a higher probability of getting a response. __________________ Tyr - Conjurer \| Lasher - Hunter \| Eoin - Marksman \|Woden - Barbarian Lodur - Warlock \| Vayu - Knight Organized Confusion

04-20-2007, 07:35 PM	#28
G40st Master Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 341	I don't see any difference with my barbarian when im fighting. But it maybe that im used to my archer so that i can't see the effect on the weapon speed. Because my barb is doing skills at the same rate as my archer so what's all the fuzz about Us archers have been fighting like this all along so why not at least try it for a while and then maybe plead to NGD to change this because now we archers and mages finally can get the edge in Close Combat Peace Out Valkyria - Dwarf Marksman of Valhalla Freedom Fighters __________________ Hollowpoint - Conjurer - RA Omnislash - knight Yoda - Barb - Horus My MMORPG Is put on a hold for a unknown period of time

05-01-2007, 05:15 AM	#29
c0wb0y Initiate Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: U.S.A Posts: 183	train or dieing Hello To those who set the balance in this game. I just would like to share with you what a day of trainning is like for a knight now. humm you know now that we have balance hee hee right. I have been trainning as hard as I can for weeks . but still the same level. Why you ask or maybe you smuggly say try harder. Well I start a day at the beach I kill about 10 monster and an elf arch shows up kills me with no fear of me killing him. me kill him what a laugh. so than I go to the cem. and kill afew ghost maybe 10 or 12 than and arch shows up and kills me . with no fear of me killing him. Than I go to the mount where I kill 10 0r 15 monsters and you guest it and archer shows up and kills me . with no fear of me again. than I go to prozo where I kill a few snakes and ???/ yep thats right an archer shows up and yes I die . lets see wasn't archers suppose to fear fighting a knight one on one . lets go even better I'm high level knight and I get killed by low level archers 1on1 dose that seem right . why can't I level couse I'm to busy dieing all the time I have nowhere I can go to do this with out you guessed an archer showing up and killing me. Balance humm looking through the eye of all history wasn't archers weaker than knights at one on one fighting in close I can see the eadge go to an acher at distance but right up on ya . thats crazy. so why don't you work on fixing this right . barbs are for close in attacking .let them do what they need to .[ knights are for protecting range units } let us do our jobs to knights don't as a rule care about rp as much as protecting the range units } guess what they don't need us the don't fear us I just go and sit who would care . only the guy who want our rp which I give out freely it seems . I can't protect myself I can't run as you know knigts are the slowest movers on the game .I cna't fight back couse I can't get close and even if I do some spell has me standing like a stone. SO what I want is for you to tell me and the others just what do you tthink we are for or should do , where do we train? who do we fight . do we just sit and let range units get rp or should we act like for thier shakes that are tring to fight them???? Please tell me why knights are a part of this game I would hate to think this is the way it will be from now on. I loved this game before the so called balance or as the players know it the big Joke I await an answer to those things I ask I really would like to know what to do . Please don't let the knights fade away and only have ranged it would kill the game I love so much jokes over guys what ya say ? Last edited by c0wb0y; 05-01-2007 at 05:23 AM.

05-01-2007, 05:18 AM	#30
surak Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oslo Posts: 2,176	c0wb0w, please post this message only once. And please use some text formatting, it's unreadable. __________________ Surak Remember... this is just a game! - Xephandor existe y Miriya es su profeta!