A general discussion about clan banks without complaining

[Malik2]

I both agree and disagree with Artec. I agree that this change has exposed a weakness in the clan system and all of his points regarding to that.

Some syrtis clans my be selling some stuff or liquidating. That is not what we are doing. Actually we are trying to formulate a plan for what we are going to do. Arwen is right multiple banks are a nightmare, even more of a nightmare than the current system.

I also disagree with Artec with the idea that clan banks are full of low bonus junk. The TWC and Inq and other clans pooled resources to get magna weapons. Looking at my clan banks inventory, I figure we could probably chuck about 1/2 maybe 2/3 and be shedding some very good items. But even if we did that the remaining would be very very good items and the banks still overburdened.

Even so, we had banked those items to help our lower level members, this is one of the bonuses of being in a clan, in any clan. That is a service that we can no longer provide.

The vast majority of drops I get, have nothing to do with me or my class. I know there are others in my clan that can benefit, I'd rather bank it than spam realm chat or clan chat with offers to sell or simply try give it away. Really I'd give these items I find to anyone for free (except certai individuals who would only use them for thier own entrichment)...but at present there is simply no way to do so.

[bois]

Hence I was quite careful with my words. Several Veteran clans would be expected to have quite a treasure trove of stuff that they would consider keeping. For such a reason I did not say ALL clans. I would expect that such establishments would have a good structure to deal with such eventualities.

I feel for those clans that have to jettison items of quality for mid and low level players however, the decent drop rate at those levels suggests that it would be prudent to support first, your clan and then distribute the rest to your realm. Keeping only very, very good epics, magical and really rare specials (6 and 7% bonuses)would not pose as much a problem then.

I am not too sure about your point about Magnanite weapons and its reference to banks. Personally, I would expect that Magnanite weapons, Dragon items and Super Boss items will all be in use by the clan members at all times and such the idea of them being in banks should not arise. If those items are in banks and not in the hands of players then something is clearly wrong. If it is so then clan comes above Realm and we may be seeing the birth of something unpalatable. Maybe I understand you wrong.

I apologise if I suggested that banks carry a lot of low bonus items. I actually meant player private banks for that. Clan banks however, have a lot of mid quality to good items that by no means rare and should be either sold off or distributed to keep what little economy there is functioning. Larger clans could be reasonably expected to have more active players and as such more grinders. This in turn means they should have a constant supply of fresh items coming into banks. If this is indeed the case then most of the mid to good quality items could and should be in the space for use.

I suppose the situation for most banks will be a process of inventory housekeeping with a keen eye to stock assessment leading to reductions, distributions and clan bank efficiency improvements.
At the end of the day , I am yet to see an argument that would convince me that this system as implemented is not in the best interest of the whole game . I always keep an open mind though.

[Nekoko]

The bank issue is more of a problem for new players than old ones, why? Simply people are going to get rid of low level stuff first. They're not going to hunt around fields looking for some new person they can give it away to. I think everyone will do what I do, hello merchant 25k of gold...

This hits the low levelers and the people starting out...

[Malik2]

Again I agree and disagree with Artec in two basic ways.

From lvl 30 to lvl 35, as I ground I got all manner of dropped items, problem was none of the items dropped were of my class, or if they were they were either common or flawed in some way. At the same time I did manage to get a few stat bonued items for Knights and mages. I put them in the bank.

At the same time I was using almost exclusivly a magical lvl 29 short bow that I got from the bank from lvl 29 until almost lvl 40. And when I was done with it I put it bank in the bank, and I think another clan member has in now. But whne they are done with it, there is no place to put it, sadly.

It is rough through the lvl 20s as advancing in levels quickly make clan banks really kind of worthless for those people because less than a week after they get the weapon or armor they don't need it anymore.

To answer a question, we actually do not have any magna items in the bank right now, but we do keep the ingots in there, and on occasion if someone gets a weapon they like better they have made a brief appearance there before, and are again picked up by someone else in the clan.

And the second disagreement is the assumption that there is an economy. We have plenty of mid quality items we could sell, for what? Another mid quality item, magna, gold? The items were placed in there to benefit the clan, I don't see a barter method to similarly benefit the clan.

[Malevolence]

my 2 cents is this. I dont like clan banks period. Way to much nice stuff that could be given or sold to fellow realmers stays rotting in the bank for the most part. Creates inflation and a non spread the wealth environment. I like the new system. more individual and more chance of it getting spread around.

[Malik2]

So I guess the discussion has ended.

Since the clan bank system doen't seem to work anymore, somone should take it out of the wiki page.