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Old 08-18-2010, 10:14 AM   #21
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You can have class, playing style and setup variety without having to have different levels of item overpoweredness.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:37 PM   #22
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And dont act like NGD took away all your items, they are still there with the same bonus, they just have a smaller and fairer impact.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:49 PM   #23
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And dont act like NGD took away all your items, they are still there with the same bonus, they just have a smaller and fairer impact.
this is true, but i think what the original poster was referring to was the gap in damage between slow and medium weapons have been made substantially smaller making the amount of money/time spent achieving those hard hitting slow weapons wasted.

i personally dont care about this. on amun i still hit harder with my slow longbow than i do with my medium shortbow even though they hit the same on horus.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:53 PM   #24
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this is true, but i think what the original poster was referring to was the gap in damage between slow and medium weapons have been made substantially smaller making the amount of money/time spent achieving those hard hitting slow weapons wasted.

i personally dont care about this. on amun i still hit harder with my slow longbow than i do with my medium shortbow even though they hit the same on horus.
This is another important point. Ppl in this thread complained about losing their opness bought by items they bought or farmed.
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:59 PM   #25
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increase health/mana as well (people feel buffed)
+1, that's what I've been trying to say
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:56 PM   #26
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I did test storebought slow30 vs my epic slow30, average damage of 30shots to same target.

slow30 from store = 284.8average 100-124 +13

slow30 epic = 301.7average 108-132 +18 +11 +12 +13 +1dex

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8949/bowfight.png

as you can see, that epic bow is WAY better but damage is only ~17more

so if this goes like this to live, then <- sad goat

It just makes variety of items/styles/players more "equal", but that is not good. because if somebody wants to grind 2000 hours to get good weapon he should be rewarded by good weapon, makes things too easy if one can just walk to market and buy item that is 90% of what best items are.

edit. now I tested same bows vs trolls, checked my calculations and storebought hits 10 MORE than epic, wtf :P

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Old 08-20-2010, 03:03 AM   #27
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So what is causing this..im not technically minded...but, where is this damag going? is it the correct damage? say if i had a bow with 30 extra damage (like say +30 ice damage. I know boni arent that high but for the sake)
is it soaked up by protections, or a misleading number? i thought it was more even with the new system, weapon+stat, and both combined to determine damage.

even staff mastery buffs, which say, +30, only raise my char sheet about 20, why?

sorry if that doesnt make sense...just im confused and no ones explained it to me..
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:22 AM   #28
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Well I'm confused about all of this updates...
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:18 AM   #29
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You talk about damage attributes on weapons. What about Cast Speed, Attack Speed? I spend all my gold to get magna and then trade for good cast staffs and equipment. I doubt 10-12% CS will make real difference on amun...

Anything have to be done so this items continue to be usable and good with new situation. Some people spend real money to get them.
One think at this...Cast speed became insane ...all locks have instant cast...
Any warrior die by one locks in 6 sec due to beetle swarm...
Take in consideration that when you talk about cast speed please.
Please be more neutral not only think at yourself.

About dmg from weapons....LMAO i posted and i will say again list of issues with this.Is complet idiotic one slow bow to not be slow and hit same dmg like one fast ....even stats of him is superior.
About warrior's weapons duno.Deleted all my chars and i can't test them.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:30 AM   #30
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if you deleted them, gtfo the forum with your screwed up english and your trolling, you dont know whats happening, and im tired of your random remarks about ppl and NGD failing
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