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Old 08-22-2010, 02:27 AM   #21
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NGD IS REMOVING THE MECHANIC THAT CAUSES MORE EVADES ON BIGGER RANGE FFS!!!
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@topic: IIRC Marksmen haven't received a major change to their subclass specific skills other than dead eye, the dmg/mana cost/effect of many arrow mastery skills hasn't been touched yet. I think it's pretty clear NGD hasn't gotten around to marksmen yet.
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:28 AM   #22
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Hahah marksman still sucks to grind just tried it at Amun now it sucks more ;(
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:46 PM   #23
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Hahah marksman still sucks to grind just tried it at Amun now it sucks more ;(
that's because mobs haven't been balanced yet. please learn to read through the threads to find out whats actually going on before posting useless comments like that.

due to the increase in range and temporary delayed reaction of mobs on the first hit and increased attack speed, grinding a marksman will be a hell of alot easier once the hp of mobs are balanced. its pointless testing grinding before ngd gets to that point
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:54 PM   #24
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The true problem is you can't survive at a warrior's charge; range at 30 - 40 or what you want !!!
A simply barb have 4000 points of life, tell me how you can kill him with some hits at 200 max !! with the buff, you have to hit him 20 times !!!
With any evades and resist of course, and i just remember you, you can't escape because they are mor fatser than you !!!

In fort battle or in hunt's party this is the same shit !!! Terror and all the archers are simply dead... very funny
The possibility to escape is a very important part of this game, but NGD removed all possibilities, it really not hard to understand that!!!

The marskmen will vanish of this game that's all, i don't like to give my rp for free
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:05 PM   #25
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The true problem is you can't survive at a warrior's charge; range at 30 - 40 or what you want !!!
A simply barb have 4000 points of life, tell me how you can kill him with some hits at 200 max !! with the buff, you have to hit him 20 times !!!
With any evades and resist of course, and i just remember you, you can't escape because they are mor fatser than you !!!

In fort battle or in hunt's party this is the same shit !!! Terror and all the archers are simply dead... very funny
The possibility to escape is a very important part of this game, but NGD removed all possibilities, it really not hard to understand that!!!

The marskmen will vanish of this game that's all, i don't like to give my rp for free
Sultars dmg has been nerfed hard, if ppl will still use it then jsut cause of the knock.
How to kill a barb: Use range 35 bow, parabolic shot, moility and ra, shot at him and kite away. With this tactic you can do some dmg before he reaches you (no speed from onsl. anymore and lower effect of spring). If he reaches you use escaptist, stun. fist and retaliation. Its of course much easier if you use things like lightning arrow or caltrops arrow.
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Sultars dmg has been nerfed hard, if ppl will still use it then jsut cause of the knock.
How to kill a barb: Use range 35 bow, parabolic shot, moility and ra, shot at him and kite away. With this tactic you can do some dmg before he reaches you (no speed from onsl. anymore and lower effect of spring). If he reaches you use escaptist, stun. fist and retaliation. Its of course much easier if you use things like lightning arrow or caltrops arrow.
Using lighning arrow/caltrops = insane mana cost, so it will not make things much easier. Still need tons mana for buffs/normals/cc's/spells
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:23 PM   #27
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Sultars dmg has been nerfed hard, if ppl will still use it then jsut cause of the knock.
How to kill a barb: Use range 35 bow, parabolic shot, moility and ra, shot at him and kite away. With this tactic you can do some dmg before he reaches you (no speed from onsl. anymore and lower effect of spring). If he reaches you use escaptist, stun. fist and retaliation. Its of course much easier if you use things like lightning arrow or caltrops arrow.
it's funny as hell , i use my cc cannons against barbs, call trops, stunning fist, and kite away with dirthy fighting on, you'll be able to survive untill UM jumps off, then you cc him to pieces (if he does not resist which is a pain).

for the info: today at herb i casted ambush 8 times got 6(!) resists, and when ambush was casted on me it always landed, i hope ngd makes swift work of the resist/evade rework.

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Old 08-23-2010, 04:55 PM   #28
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Using lighning arrow/caltrops = insane mana cost, so it will not make things much easier. Still need tons mana for buffs/normals/cc's/spells
If caltrops and lightning hit you dont need any buffs beside recharged and at the beginning parabolic shot. Its easy, some autohits with parabolic shot (kiting) then caltrops, kiting, lightning, kiting and if needed you can now cast ambush 5, um is gone and ambush has low mana cost. You should be even able to cast sudden strike after caltrops.

Note: im talking about the amun version where onsl. doesnt effect the caster and spring has a worse effect.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:42 PM   #29
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Sultars dmg has been nerfed hard, if ppl will still use it then jsut cause of the knock.
How to kill a barb: Use range 35 bow, parabolic shot, moility and ra, shot at him and kite away. With this tactic you can do some dmg before he reaches you (no speed from onsl. anymore and lower effect of spring). If he reaches you use escaptist, stun. fist and retaliation. Its of course much easier if you use things like lightning arrow or caltrops arrow.
Yeah yeah a great archer we r' lucky to have one, try to have this set up a and comeback here to speak about that ... I m very curious
i have 340 000 rp don't try to learn me how to play please ....
check the stats of Ra server
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:52 PM   #30
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Yeah yeah a great archer we r' lucky to have one, try to have this set up a and comeback here to speak about that ... I m very curious
i have 340 000 rp don't try to learn me how to play please ....
check the stats of Ra server
Im not interested in the length of your virtual cock, ive seen ppl with lots of rp quitting the game after changes in gameplay because they were not able to play with anything else than the setups and playingstyles they adapted from other players.
You have the ability to kill barbs easy and its not a problem to get at least one of those spells in your setup. Many marks use arrow mastery at 19 already to put ra and some spells on 5 and the tricks tree is one of the most useful ones in the game. Only one of the spells is useless in my eyes, finesse, and even this one can be good in cambination with some others. Use the things youve got instead of complaining.
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