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Malevolence · 08-27-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vythica

You know Wes pointed out to me the other day that you never seem to have an idea of your own. You never put down your own thoughts and feelings, everything is copypasta or a youtube link. I'm guessing by the immaculate spelling of the bold text in your last post that it's copypasta and not your own thoughts and feelings. Stop being a drone. And with that, I will not respond to any further posts from you on this topic. Anyone else however is welcome to question and comment.

Feel better? I was wondering how long till you talked like this. Always the same shit when you can't win atk me personally. Lame dude lame. Also stating facts has nothing to do with my own thoughts or feelings.

Vythica · 08-27-2010, 05:26 PM

Fine, if you want to keep debating, then let's do it. But just so you know every line you write on this topic is a personal attack on me. But let's go. Your move.

Malevolence · 08-27-2010, 05:46 PM

Actually I'd probably do the same if i was in the US forces atm. But then I would of known better not to join in the 1st place. Having a ability to think for yourself and research as much as you can before taking a major step in risk and responsibility when joining the military is something of a no brainer. Doing this 1st not after would of saved you loads of hassle. Its nothing new and well documented.

Vythica · 08-27-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Malevolence

Actually I'd probably do the same if i was in the US forces atm. But then I would of known better not to join in the 1st place. Having a ability to think for yourself and research as much as you can before taking a major step in risk and responsibility when joining the military is something of a no brainer. Doing this 1st not after would of saved you loads of hassle. Its nothing new and well documented.

This is true. However, I was a young impressionable 17 year old with no idea how the real world worked. C'est la vie, non?

Malevolence · 08-27-2010, 05:59 PM

Personally ignorance as an excuse never worked for me. But on the legal side I could see that defence working in some court of law. "I was to stupid to think at 17 now I'm 23 and now I know. I wasn't responsible for my actions at 17 bla bla bla." Could work with a glass of water to swallow what ever pride and self respect you have remaining.

Vythica · 08-27-2010, 06:41 PM

Haha, I have lots of pride and self-respect. In fact I think I'm one of the baddest motherfuckers walkin'. I have faith in my moral code and that I've done the best that I can to follow internationally accepted rules for how a human being/soldier should conduct themselves.

Malevolence · 08-27-2010, 06:54 PM

Well in my honest opinion what you do if acknowledged would set a precedence and destroy the very concept of the chain of command and the whole point of the military. Having soldiers questioning every single order would lead to a breakdown in national hell international security. Don't tell me the losers would not crawl out of the woodwork cause they would.

Vythica · 08-27-2010, 07:10 PM

Not so. Modern western militaries are already signatories to these rules. The Geneva Conventions, the UN Charter, the Nuremberg Principles. It's just high time they started yielding to them. Also it wouldn't lead to the breakdown of the chain of command if the orders were well documented and transparent, as they should be. i.e. no lying about facts to coerce soldiers into performing. (WMDs come to mind.)

Malevolence · 08-27-2010, 07:31 PM

Splitting hairs!

lol dude if this was the case we would have no need for this conversation would we.

DkySven · 08-27-2010, 07:33 PM

Malevolence, first warning for launching several personal attacks against players. Please do not repeat this attitude. If you have a personal problem with someone, sort it out using PMs please.

08-27-2010, 05:26 PM	#22
Vythica Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the closet. Posts: 40	Fine, if you want to keep debating, then let's do it. But just so you know every line you write on this topic is a personal attack on me. But let's go. Your move. __________________ Resurrected.

08-27-2010, 06:41 PM	#26
Vythica Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the closet. Posts: 40	Haha, I have lots of pride and self-respect. In fact I think I'm one of the baddest motherfuckers walkin'. I have faith in my moral code and that I've done the best that I can to follow internationally accepted rules for how a human being/soldier should conduct themselves. __________________ Resurrected.

08-27-2010, 07:10 PM	#28
Vythica Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the closet. Posts: 40	Not so. Modern western militaries are already signatories to these rules. The Geneva Conventions, the UN Charter, the Nuremberg Principles. It's just high time they started yielding to them. Also it wouldn't lead to the breakdown of the chain of command if the orders were well documented and transparent, as they should be. i.e. no lying about facts to coerce soldiers into performing. (WMDs come to mind.) __________________ Resurrected.

08-27-2010, 07:33 PM	#30
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Malevolence, first warning for launching several personal attacks against players. Please do not repeat this attitude. If you have a personal problem with someone, sort it out using PMs please. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

08-27-2010, 05:46 PM	#23
Malevolence Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland/Canada Posts: 139	Actually I'd probably do the same if i was in the US forces atm. But then I would of known better not to join in the 1st place. Having a ability to think for yourself and research as much as you can before taking a major step in risk and responsibility when joining the military is something of a no brainer. Doing this 1st not after would of saved you loads of hassle. Its nothing new and well documented.

08-27-2010, 05:59 PM	#25
Malevolence Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland/Canada Posts: 139	Personally ignorance as an excuse never worked for me. But on the legal side I could see that defence working in some court of law. "I was to stupid to think at 17 now I'm 23 and now I know. I wasn't responsible for my actions at 17 bla bla bla." Could work with a glass of water to swallow what ever pride and self respect you have remaining.

08-27-2010, 06:54 PM	#27
Malevolence Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland/Canada Posts: 139	Well in my honest opinion what you do if acknowledged would set a precedence and destroy the very concept of the chain of command and the whole point of the military. Having soldiers questioning every single order would lead to a breakdown in national hell international security. Don't tell me the losers would not crawl out of the woodwork cause they would.

08-27-2010, 07:31 PM	#29
Malevolence Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland/Canada Posts: 139	Splitting hairs! lol dude if this was the case we would have no need for this conversation would we.