To Upgrade or Not To Upgrade that is the question..... - Page 3

Patience-Ana · 09-01-2010, 05:01 AM

Well, Wynn was only coming to my defense. So how about I join him and come to my own defense? In my opinion, upgrading a fort to allow time for additional defense forces to arrive is very very logical. It is not cowardly. And by calling it cowardly, Altara, you are being inflammatory. And furthermore, it looks like you DID exaggerate a bit, after all, didn't you? There were more than 5 when you took the ugpgraded Algaros, huh?

I am not an experienced forum poster. I have other priorities. But I am tired of hearing so much whining and bitching about the upgrading of Algaros. Just deal with it, ok? Because frankly, we will continue to do what we deem to be appropriate regardless of what anybody thinks. Obviously there are varied opinions. It seems that many are not grounded in logic, but instead are quite subjective.

Vythica · 09-01-2010, 06:12 AM

Preparation H is good for inflammation.

ncvr · 09-01-2010, 06:20 AM

Divisis angiportis et plateis constitutis arearum electio ad opportunitatem et usum communem civitatis est explicanda aedibus sacris, foro reliquisque locis communibus. Et si erunt moenia secundum mare, area, ubi forum constituatur, eligenda proxime portum, sin autem mediterraneo, in oppido medio. Aedibus vero sacris, quorum deorum maxime in tutela civitas videtur esse, et Iovi et Iunoni et Minervae, in excelsissimo loco, unde moenium maxima pars conspiciatur, areae distribuantur. Mercurio autem in foro aut etiam, ut Isidi et Serapi, in emporio; Apollini Patrique Libero secundum theatrum; Herculi, in quibus civitatibus non sunt gymnasia neque amphitheatra, ad circum; Marti extra urbem sed ad campum; itemque Veneri ad portum. Id autem etiam Etruscis haruspicibus disciplinarum scripturis ita est dedicatum, extra murum Veneris, Volcani, Martis fana ideo conlocari, uti non insuescat in urbe adulescentibus seu matribus familiarum veneria libido, Volcanique vi e moenibus religionibus et sacrificiis evocata ab timore incendiorum aedificia videantur liberari. Martis vero divinitas cum sit extra moenia dedicata, non erit inter cives armigera dissensio, sed ab hostibus ea defensa belli periculo conservabit.

Vythica · 09-01-2010, 06:23 AM

Necro is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Divisis angiportis et plateis constitutis arearum electio ad opportunitatem et usum communem civitatis est explicanda aedibus sacris, foro reliquisque locis communibus. Et si erunt moenia secundum mare, area, ubi forum constituatur, eligenda proxime portum, sin autem mediterraneo, in oppido medio. Aedibus vero sacris, quorum deorum maxime in tutela civitas videtur esse, et Iovi et Iunoni et Minervae, in excelsissimo loco, unde moenium maxima pars conspiciatur, areae distribuantur. Mercurio autem in foro aut etiam, ut Isidi et Serapi, in emporio; Apollini Patrique Libero secundum theatrum; Herculi, in quibus civitatibus non sunt gymnasia neque amphitheatra, ad circum; Marti extra urbem sed ad campum; itemque Veneri ad portum. Id autem etiam Etruscis haruspicibus disciplinarum scripturis ita est dedicatum, extra murum Veneris, Volcani, Martis fana ideo conlocari, uti non insuescat in urbe adulescentibus seu matribus familiarum veneria libido, Volcanique vi e moenibus religionibus et sacrificiis evocata ab timore incendiorum aedificia videantur liberari. Martis vero divinitas cum sit extra moenia dedicata, non erit inter cives armigera dissensio, sed ab hostibus ea defensa belli periculo conservabit.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

Altara · 09-01-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WynaWynn

Its a level 3 right now, Adelle.

Have at it.

Challenge accepted.

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Originally Posted by Patience-Ana

And furthermore, it looks like you DID exaggerate a bit, after all, didn't you? There were more than 5 when you took the ugpgraded Algaros, huh?

You're right I apologize we did do it six instead of five, so we did it with four.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j61Oaw5ddtA
Pay close attention, my favorite part is the credits.

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Originally Posted by Altara

The OP posted for opinion and I posted mine, and a valid argument and proof for why this statement:

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Originally Posted by Patience-Ana

I mean, a level 3 fort makes it really difficult for a smaller team to actually get the fort

Is wrong.

Again valid proof. So stop with the personal attacks, attempts of trolling, grow up a tad and re-read everything I have posted in this thread. Maybe you will get it now. :]

Shwish · 09-01-2010, 10:50 AM

Now that we have that settled, here's keyboard cat:

Patience-Ana · 09-01-2010, 04:59 PM

Ok, I admit that "really difficult" was a poor choice of words. Upgrading a fort just means it takes a smaller team more TIME to take the fort. AND, if there are players online who care about defending the fort, they might be able to get there in time to prevent its capture. Or, if someone is actually AT the fort, they can alert allies to the attack when it begins, and possibly prevent capture of the fort. In your video, it appears that the fort was unoccupied. When we invited you to try and take it, the fort was occupied. Speaking for myself and Wynn only, I don't believe either of us were even logged into the game when you made that video.

Necroverus, I believe that posts to this forum are supposed to be in English, aren't they?

It seems that you are one of those people, Altara, who always has to have the last word. So, just note that if I don't respond to any future posts by you, it is NOT because I am intimidated or I concede that you have "won". It will simply be because arguing with you is not how I choose to spend my time.

And I am already very much grown up...probably more so than you, so let's not go there. That statement is yet another example of an inflammatory statement by you.

SanguineLamai · 09-01-2010, 07:38 PM

This is where Ill remind everyone that its called a "war" zone for a reason. There is a war going on. And in conflict, there are conditions, if you really want to get political about it, fine, call it Just Ad Bellum. You step on my soil, and take my fort, I have the equal right to take yours, or stop you from taking mine, for whatever level that takes. In the case of regnum there is a clearly defined path to a goal in this conflict. Collection of gems to gain an advantage over your opponents in the continuing conflict. Albeit true that the war in this case is ultimately never-ending, or it seems that way, its still just that. A war.

If Fort upgrading keep you from farming the fort for RP, great.

If Fort upgrading keeps you at bay for just a few more seconds, so I can call in reinforcements, great.

If Fort upgrading introduces you to a Guard captain when the door goes down and it takes you a while to recover from that, Great.

Kinda cheesy to do it, but Ill even cite the Sun Tzu.

**Breaks out his english translation**

" Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? " -- Sun Tzu

Awrath · 09-01-2010, 10:21 PM

Capturing an empty level 3 is easy of course. Without doubt however, it does increase the time taken to capture the fort, and I can see how it would give time for reinforcements to arrive should the fort be camped.

Whether an individual or group choses to upgrade a fort within their own realm, is entirely up to them if that's the way they wish to play the game, who am I to say "No, you must play in this way".

I am personally against upgrading enemy forts that we may capture, especially when we already outnumber the enemy. It just ruins the fight, and there is no challenge involved in farming the enemy.

I see no problems with upgrading forts within your own realm though. I actually enjoy taking part in capturing an upgraded fort, knowing that there's gold waiting for me!

Also, imho, I don't see how it is cowardly to upgrade a fort preemptively.

animalartist · 09-01-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Awrath

I see no problems with upgrading forts within your own realm though. I actually enjoy taking part in capturing an upgraded fort, knowing that there's gold waiting for me!

I will agree with that.

09-01-2010, 05:01 AM	#21
Patience-Ana Pledge Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 0	tsk tsk Well, Wynn was only coming to my defense. So how about I join him and come to my own defense? In my opinion, upgrading a fort to allow time for additional defense forces to arrive is very very logical. It is not cowardly. And by calling it cowardly, Altara, you are being inflammatory. And furthermore, it looks like you DID exaggerate a bit, after all, didn't you? There were more than 5 when you took the ugpgraded Algaros, huh? I am not an experienced forum poster. I have other priorities. But I am tired of hearing so much whining and bitching about the upgrading of Algaros. Just deal with it, ok? Because frankly, we will continue to do what we deem to be appropriate regardless of what anybody thinks. Obviously there are varied opinions. It seems that many are not grounded in logic, but instead are quite subjective.

09-01-2010, 06:12 AM	#22
Vythica Pledge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the closet. Posts: 40	Preparation H is good for inflammation. __________________ Resurrected.

09-01-2010, 06:20 AM	#23
ncvr Marquis Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,439	Divisis angiportis et plateis constitutis arearum electio ad opportunitatem et usum communem civitatis est explicanda aedibus sacris, foro reliquisque locis communibus. Et si erunt moenia secundum mare, area, ubi forum constituatur, eligenda proxime portum, sin autem mediterraneo, in oppido medio. Aedibus vero sacris, quorum deorum maxime in tutela civitas videtur esse, et Iovi et Iunoni et Minervae, in excelsissimo loco, unde moenium maxima pars conspiciatur, areae distribuantur. Mercurio autem in foro aut etiam, ut Isidi et Serapi, in emporio; Apollini Patrique Libero secundum theatrum; Herculi, in quibus civitatibus non sunt gymnasia neque amphitheatra, ad circum; Marti extra urbem sed ad campum; itemque Veneri ad portum. Id autem etiam Etruscis haruspicibus disciplinarum scripturis ita est dedicatum, extra murum Veneris, Volcani, Martis fana ideo conlocari, uti non insuescat in urbe adulescentibus seu matribus familiarum veneria libido, Volcanique vi e moenibus religionibus et sacrificiis evocata ab timore incendiorum aedificia videantur liberari. Martis vero divinitas cum sit extra moenia dedicata, non erit inter cives armigera dissensio, sed ab hostibus ea defensa belli periculo conservabit.

09-01-2010, 10:50 AM	#26
Shwish Baron Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 906	Now that we have that settled, here's keyboard cat:

09-01-2010, 04:59 PM	#27
Patience-Ana Pledge Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 0	Ok, I admit that "really difficult" was a poor choice of words. Upgrading a fort just means it takes a smaller team more TIME to take the fort. AND, if there are players online who care about defending the fort, they might be able to get there in time to prevent its capture. Or, if someone is actually AT the fort, they can alert allies to the attack when it begins, and possibly prevent capture of the fort. In your video, it appears that the fort was unoccupied. When we invited you to try and take it, the fort was occupied. Speaking for myself and Wynn only, I don't believe either of us were even logged into the game when you made that video. Necroverus, I believe that posts to this forum are supposed to be in English, aren't they? It seems that you are one of those people, Altara, who always has to have the last word. So, just note that if I don't respond to any future posts by you, it is NOT because I am intimidated or I concede that you have "won". It will simply be because arguing with you is not how I choose to spend my time. And I am already very much grown up...probably more so than you, so let's not go there. That statement is yet another example of an inflammatory statement by you.

09-01-2010, 07:38 PM	#28
SanguineLamai Apprentice Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: An Island Far away Posts: 58	This is where Ill remind everyone that its called a "war" zone for a reason. There is a war going on. And in conflict, there are conditions, if you really want to get political about it, fine, call it Just Ad Bellum. You step on my soil, and take my fort, I have the equal right to take yours, or stop you from taking mine, for whatever level that takes. In the case of regnum there is a clearly defined path to a goal in this conflict. Collection of gems to gain an advantage over your opponents in the continuing conflict. Albeit true that the war in this case is ultimately never-ending, or it seems that way, its still just that. A war. If Fort upgrading keep you from farming the fort for RP, great. If Fort upgrading keeps you at bay for just a few more seconds, so I can call in reinforcements, great. If Fort upgrading introduces you to a Guard captain when the door goes down and it takes you a while to recover from that, Great. Kinda cheesy to do it, but Ill even cite the Sun Tzu. Breaks out his english translation " Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? " -- Sun Tzu

09-01-2010, 10:21 PM	#29
Awrath Master Join Date: May 2010 Location: England Posts: 455	Capturing an empty level 3 is easy of course. Without doubt however, it does increase the time taken to capture the fort, and I can see how it would give time for reinforcements to arrive should the fort be camped. Whether an individual or group choses to upgrade a fort within their own realm, is entirely up to them if that's the way they wish to play the game, who am I to say "No, you must play in this way". I am personally against upgrading enemy forts that we may capture, especially when we already outnumber the enemy. It just ruins the fight, and there is no challenge involved in farming the enemy. I see no problems with upgrading forts within your own realm though. I actually enjoy taking part in capturing an upgraded fort, knowing that there's gold waiting for me! Also, imho, I don't see how it is cowardly to upgrade a fort preemptively.