Barbs are boring now... - Page 3

_Emin_ · 11-20-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gluffs

I have recently started to play again and one of the biggest reason to why
barbs is so easy mode now imo is that they get no penalty for all the dmg ( who
cares about the -100% evade on zerk?). Before it was included a risk by using
berserk to get the high dmg so it took some skill to use it. Even knights new dmg
skill includes -90% protection to get out more dmg. Just put that same penalty
on berserk and baaam, its risky again to use that high dmg and you need to
think some before you use it. This migh not solve all the problems i see ppl
complain about but it will make it more challenging to play barb.

I agree with this, it would be more fun to play a barb

Knekelvoeste · 11-21-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SolomonDean

How about making barbs Dex usefull and the more you have the more you can dodge Knocks. For example this is what Dex should be in a MMO game.

Dexterity (Dex)

Dexterity measures hand-eye coordination, agility, reflexes, and balance. This ability is the most important one for rogues, but it’s also high on the list for characters who typically wear light or medium armor (rangers and barbarians) or no armor at all (monks, wizards, and sorcerers), and for anyone who wants to be a skilled archer.
You apply your character’s Dexterity modifier to:

Ranged attack rolls, including those for attacks made with bows, crossbows, throwing axes, and other ranged weapons.

Armor Class (AC), provided that the character can react to the attack.

Reflex saving throws, for avoiding fireballs and other attacks that you can escape by moving quickly. GRRRR why dont they apply this to barbs!!!!!!!!

Balance, Escape Artist, Hide, Move Silently, Open Lock, Ride, Sleight of Hand, Tumble, and Use Rope checks. These are the skills that have Dexterity as their key ability.

As far as I know Dex is just for crits on barbs in RO.

Thats just because you want to make those Alasthor leggings of yours usefull!!

Knekelvoeste · 11-21-2010, 02:04 AM

Btw im still playing barb and it will still stay my main char i'm not using any kick lvl 5 nor TFB lvl 5 because it just sucks. I dont wanna win becuase i have a char knocked all the time...

Llayne · 11-21-2010, 03:19 AM

RO was more fun when hunters were hard to kill. It felt much more rewarding to beat them. Now there are like three of them that can fight barbs properly.

sobis · 11-21-2010, 05:34 AM

The boring of the barbs now its the "easy way"(feint 4, kick4, fulmi4).Thats the reason I don´t use them.

Ulfsgar · 11-21-2010, 03:43 PM

It's too easy to kill the enemy. Giving the berserk penalty back seems to be a nice beginning, but it won't cause a real change. Much more is needed.
I could really imagine penalties for other spells, e.g. UM decreases your damage by 15%.

The main principle is:
Strong offensive spells (berserk, fulminating, thirst for blood) get a penalty for defense.
Strong defensive spells (frenzy, UM) get a penalty for attack.

You have to ponder what to cast at what time. ATM, you can cast all your buffs in every situation ...

Furthermore, the CCs need shorter duration, because they make it so damn easy in pvp and rvr to kill others, so that it's no fun. pvp or rvr is nearly like mob killing.

Mikan · 11-21-2010, 04:36 PM

Barbs are boring after change after change forcing them into linear gameplay, who would've thought.

trulyem · 11-22-2010, 12:47 AM

The only problem I can see with Barbs is the 2 knockdowns. Leaving 1 knock only will help solve this. Keep Feint and Drop Kick.

Barbarians now are toned well proportioned UNLIKE before with the ff:

225% Attack Damage of South Cross
45 Sec Unstoppable Madness
200% Attack Damage of Thirst For Blood
35 Sec Speed of Onslaught
15% damage affecting the caster for Off with their Heads
100% damage of Spiritual blow (lvl 1)
100% damage + Knockdown for Lightning Strike.

and more. But these are the best nerfs that the barbarian received. It made barbarian less damage whore imagine 3k+ before.

The other classes needs improvement what I can see.

Miraculix · 11-22-2010, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by trulyem

Drop Kick

he he. I lol'd.

Jippy · 11-22-2010, 01:55 PM

"RO was more fun when hunters were hard to kill. It felt much more rewarding to beat them"

I barely see any hunters anymore... Did they all make barbs or were they barbs and made hunters and now went back to barbs???

11-21-2010, 02:04 AM	#23
Knekelvoeste Initiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 226	Btw im still playing barb and it will still stay my main char i'm not using any kick lvl 5 nor TFB lvl 5 because it just sucks. I dont wanna win becuase i have a char knocked all the time... __________________ Rhaegar - Barbarian ________________ Daenarys - Conjurer The White Company

11-21-2010, 05:34 AM	#25
sobis Count Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Castillo oscuro (Isla Rosa de los Vientos) Posts: 1,358	The boring of the barbs now its the "easy way"(feint 4, kick4, fulmi4).Thats the reason I don´t use them. __________________ lukitox tjg - *Leyenda*

11-21-2010, 04:36 PM	#27
Mikan Baron Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In Nekoko's lap ;) Posts: 768	Barbs are boring after change after change forcing them into linear gameplay, who would've thought. __________________ Hannah Amelie • Catalina Nevena • Alicia Godwyn Alsius Horus ✝ No chance of victory, no chance of defeat ✝ Frozen Flame Individually, we are one drop. Together, we are an ocean. An ocean of drama.

11-22-2010, 01:55 PM	#30
Jippy Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Any place that has beer Posts: 179	"RO was more fun when hunters were hard to kill. It felt much more rewarding to beat them" I barely see any hunters anymore... Did they all make barbs or were they barbs and made hunters and now went back to barbs??? __________________ Jippy 60 Knight Member of Team Goat

11-21-2010, 03:19 AM	#24
Llayne Initiate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 205	RO was more fun when hunters were hard to kill. It felt much more rewarding to beat them. Now there are like three of them that can fight barbs properly.

11-21-2010, 03:43 PM	#26
Ulfsgar Pledge Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Niflheim Posts: 45	It's too easy to kill the enemy. Giving the berserk penalty back seems to be a nice beginning, but it won't cause a real change. Much more is needed. I could really imagine penalties for other spells, e.g. UM decreases your damage by 15%. The main principle is: Strong offensive spells (berserk, fulminating, thirst for blood) get a penalty for defense. Strong defensive spells (frenzy, UM) get a penalty for attack. You have to ponder what to cast at what time. ATM, you can cast all your buffs in every situation ... Furthermore, the CCs need shorter duration, because they make it so damn easy in pvp and rvr to kill others, so that it's no fun. pvp or rvr is nearly like mob killing.

11-22-2010, 12:47 AM	#28
trulyem Master Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Asia Posts: 335	The only problem I can see with Barbs is the 2 knockdowns. Leaving 1 knock only will help solve this. Keep Feint and Drop Kick. Barbarians now are toned well proportioned UNLIKE before with the ff: 225% Attack Damage of South Cross 45 Sec Unstoppable Madness 200% Attack Damage of Thirst For Blood 35 Sec Speed of Onslaught 15% damage affecting the caster for Off with their Heads 100% damage of Spiritual blow (lvl 1) 100% damage + Knockdown for Lightning Strike. and more. But these are the best nerfs that the barbarian received. It made barbarian less damage whore imagine 3k+ before. The other classes needs improvement what I can see.