[Hunter class] What is the plan ?

[NSer]

Originally Posted by HidraA

Lmao Thiath you are umasing =))))))))))) you made me to laught a lots..... so 0% defense vs melle after? only that 30% vs archers? ..... wuahahahhahahaha sorry Thiath ..but worst think that i ever heard from your side....maybe since you play warlock is SOTW that frustrate you...be more carful what you say there

Biased marx biased.. no rly

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by Umaril

Marks offence is better than hunter offence, as it should be.
Hunter defense is worse than marks defense, wait what?

This argue is briked somehow,confuse the marksman when his buffs are down and cast SS and marksman defense is will be 100% lower.

You forgot ....any other classes can see one each other,can buff in time defense or offense.

The main advantage "camo" of a hunter is complete ignored.Never understood why ,i was killed over 2k times in 3 years of play by hunters that come out from camo and use confuse...unable to buff,unable to cast ambush,unable to cast distract,unable to cast SS to tone down hunters armor that is allrady buffed and for sure he will make much more dmg than a marksman that is SS-ed.....ok i will try to cast BoW or ethereal ...meh wtf he is under SOTW ..wtv....

Ok give to hunters strategic position.

Or erase evasion from marksman tree as Scias sugested.

Try to see what will happens after...and tell me...if you are a active player,or you hunted a lots alone instead of just playng behind a zerg you maybe will be able to see all situoations what will happen.

Now try to tell me what will happen?...maybe i am wrong ,i am bias sure,but i want to see if people ignore as usual some advantage...

[NSer]

Originally Posted by HidraA

This argue is briked somehow,confuse the marksman when his buffs are down and cast SS and marksman defense is will be 100% lower.

You forgot ....any other classes can see one each other,can buff in time defense or offense.

The main advantage "camo" of a hunter is complete ignored.Never understood why ,i was killed over 2k times in 3 years of play by hunters that come out from camo and use confuse...unable to buff,unable to cast ambush,unable to cast distract,unable to cast SS to tone down hunters armor that is allrady buffed and for sure he will make much more dmg than a marksman that is SS-ed.....ok i will try to cast BoW or ethereal ...meh wtf he is under SOTW ..wtv....

Ok give to hunters strategic position.

Or erase evasion from marksman tree as Scias sugested.

Try to see what will happens after...and tell me...if you are a active player,or you hunted a lots alone instead of just playng behind a zerg you maybe will be able to see all situoations what will happen.

Now try to tell me what will happen?...maybe i am wrong ,i am bias sure,but i want to see if people ignore as usual some advantage...

Camo gives real advantage only in PvP n RvR there are always Di'd conjus which can dispel

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by NSer

Camo gives real advantage only in PvP n RvR there are always Di'd conjus which can dispel

If there are conj :P

As conj i don't skill for DI because there are not many conj around to cast on them DI ,and i prefer to put my PP as conj on defense.You know...barbs hit realy hard...a dead conj is a useless conj

[NSer]

Originally Posted by HidraA

If there are conj :P

As conj i don't skill for DI because there are not many conj around to cast on them DI ,and i prefer to put my PP as conj on defense.You know...barbs hit realy hard...a dead conj is a useless conj

ehmmm in what timezone u play ? i often had chases by 3 support conju and 1 barb/marx when was hunting in alsius

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by NSer

Biased marx biased.. no rly

Lol what?...0% defense looks for you a fair option?....ok wtv....i am bias as you told

I am sorry guys i am realy unfair.
Marksman have best defense from game.
I suggest to remove evasions from marksman ,Scias is right,what for defense on marksman ,i am realy idiot....,but also i suggest to remove recharged arows ,is unfair that marksman to have the a activable dmg spell.

Ok lets give strategic to hunters,with now evasive tree marksman is too strong too Meh ma bad,maybe to give strategic to warlock.

=)))))))))))))))

[NSer]

Originally Posted by HidraA

Lol what?...0% defense looks for you a fair option?....ok wtv....i am bias as you told

I am sorry guys i am realy unfair.
Marksman have best defense from game.
I suggest to remove evasions from marksman ,Scias is right,what for defense on marksman ,i am realy idiot....,but also i suggest to remove recharged arows ,is unfair that marksman to have the a activable dmg spell.

Ok lets give strategic to hunters,with now evasive tree marksman is too strong too Meh ma bad,maybe to give strategic to warlock.

=)))))))))))))))

Lol *sarcasm sensor burned down :/* I don't understand whyu don't agree that marx have really NICE defence? for offencive class imo most balanced example of offencive class is warlock with some more damage And less CCs

[Kitsuni]

Originally Posted by Umaril

This isn't meant to be another argument thread... Sigh.

Marks are better than Hunters in pretty much every way, that's idiotic. Hunters need some love, they have poor offence and poor defense Marks need to pick a roll and stick to it, not have both good offence and good defense.

Barbs defense is good, if you can afford to spring a ton of points on all your defense passives, and frenzy, and caution, and even then caution is the only one that has any effect on elemental damage.

Barb offence is better than knight offence, as it should be.
Knight defense is better than barb defense, as it should be.
Warlock offence is better than conju offence, as it should be
Conju defense is better than warlock defense, as it should be.
Marks offence is better than hunter offence, as it should be.
Hunter defense is worse than marks defense, wait what?

Can argue all day about if x class should have more of less defense/offence than another class from another pairing, but the archer pairing is broken, that needs to be dealt with before we mess around with other things.

It could be changed through giving Hunters new spells, wider CCs, better support, and so on, but if the marks still has better defense it still doesn't fit the subclass trend. So we can see Hunters with better defense than marks currently have, or we can see marks take a defense cut joined with a hunter buff. I'd rather see the latter because frankly the thought of any ranger with stronger defense than a marksman already has is scary.

I would like to see Strategic position moved to Hunters and Marksmen to get back the old Death sentence but only affecting caster...

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by NSer

Lol *sarcasm sensor burned down :/* I don't understand whyu don't agree that marx have really NICE defence? for offencive class imo most balanced example of offencive class is warlock with some more damage And less CCs

just because normal hits of a marksman are realy sucks on players,the only useful spells are ethereal and serpent bite.Yes in RvR situation is sucks when 3-4 marksman hit you in same time with ethreal and serpent.But this not means is very powerfull as individual.

You can't compare with warlock.
I play warlock,warlock are areas spammers.Wile most areas from marksman(mostly common areas as hunters) are useless and deal suck dmg.

An about warlock CC =))))))))

Warlock CC:

-Meteor=dizzy +200 up to 700 dmg...depends of target.
-Pricky ivy-immobilize(not protected by DI)
-Beetle swarm-unable to hit (not protected by DI)
-wild domain-knock
-silence-dizzy
-dom-dizzy
-twister-immobilize (not protected by DI)
-Laziness - -50% weapon dmg on lvl 5 (very usefull vs barbs)
-Darkness- unable to be healed
-Fragility - -25% resist vs phisical dmg
-Exposure - - 40% resist vs elemental dmg
-Infuriate - -40% protection
-clumsiness -30 dexterity


=))))))))))) Poor warlocks have no CC ...i play warlock and belive me have lots of cool trick...that why i play him atm,i sense that marksman will be nerfred soon worst than hunter was...and changed my class

[HidraA]

Originally Posted by Kitsunie

I would like to see Strategic position moved to Hunters and Marksmen to get back the old Death sentence but only affecting caster...

Arguments of that ?..or just a random post?horse glasses....post...think a bit more than copy paste this :P

I prefer this only if they give me cold-blod :P..or old escapist back :P

Trade of spells :P