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Old 04-04-2012, 09:22 PM   #21
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Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never.
I love a good old tree hug.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:16 AM   #22
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I don't. I never did. I never will. When you see me doing it ingame - feel free to call me a hypocrite.

Sure, it could save my life more then once, but for me it's just a proof of lack of skill. Someone treehugs - because he knows/feels that he can not win without it.
I do not treehug and i expect the same from the person i'm fighting with. Nothing more, nothing less. Is it really so much to ask for?
Sorry but this just makes you a terrible player. Allowing someone to beat the shit out of you while you're unable to do anything because of CCs seems quite stupid to me. If a warlock gets hit with burst of wind, he's supposed to just stand there and "take it like a man" instead of looking for cover?

I'm a warlock and I think using normal hits is noobish.

I don't. I never did. I never will. When you see me doing it ingame - feel free to call me a hypocrite.

Sure, it could save my life more than once, but for me it's just a proof of lack of skill. Someone uses normal hits - because he knows/feels that he can not win without them.
I do not use normal hits and i expect the same from the person i'm fighting with. Nothing more, nothing less. Is it really so much to ask for?

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To me: "Treehugging" is a fully valid tactic if it's used in a certain way
- You get dizzyd/conf, simply run out some time of the fight
- Recover some quick mana (or cd:s if your are grinding and a foe attacks you)
- Anything really that you feel you need to recover from in order to fight back properly and not be a sitting duck (keyword = "fight back" )

But sadly, I have to agree with op, that there are really some perverted freaks and their trees out there in the RO world!
They simply refuse to fight if they cant have you knocked/dizzyd during the whole fight.. NOTHING can make em leave that sad lil tree alone for even a sec. Then it's no longer a "tactic"... it's just sad :/
This I can get on board with. Some people do take it way too far, I've seen a guy get down to like 500 hp, and then run circles around a tree until he was full before starting to fight again
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:39 AM   #23
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Sorry but this just makes you a terrible player. Allowing someone to beat the shit out of you while you're unable to do anything because of CCs seems quite stupid to me.
You seem to forget, like so many others, that even if treehugging is a tactic, it's not the ONLY tactic.
When an archer is under confuse he still can use lots of other skills, he still can run around the enemy in circles or close behind his back, so it's harder to point and hit him, he can ... och, there are lots of things, treehugging is just one of many alternatives and not the most honorable one.
Yea, i know it's stupid to talk about honour in an unbalanced game, where everybody is only looking for easy kills ... so yes, call me stupid, but at least i don't need to feel ashamed when i finally get my rp's after a victory.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:08 AM   #24
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You seem to forget, like so many others, that even if treehugging is a tactic, it's not the ONLY tactic.
When an archer is under confuse he still can use lots of other skills, he still can run around the enemy in circles or close behind his back, so it's harder to point and hit him, he can ... och, there are lots of things, treehugging is just one of many alternatives and not the most honorable one.
Yea, i know it's stupid to talk about honour in an unbalanced game, where everybody is only looking for easy kills ... so yes, call me stupid, but at least i don't need to feel ashamed when i finally get my rp's after a victory.
When I get Confuse, especially lvl5, I tend to freeze and treehug. He comes close and I stun and continue treehug. Having me a chance to buff up and fight.
I carry on me about only 3 Attacking spells; Serpent Bite, Etheral Arrow and Break Apart. Winter Stroke and Stunning Fist are hardly an attacking spell. A Hunter could easily overpower a marks there. Sudden Strike, Ambush, Cold Blood+Rapid Shot+ DF. There a hunter will easily get me too 2/5 my health. Not Forgetting Tear Apart & Break Apart. Simply this for not treehugging.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:21 AM   #25
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You seem to forget, like so many others, that even if treehugging is a tactic, it's not the ONLY tactic.
When an archer is under confuse he still can use lots of other skills, he still can run around the enemy in circles or close behind his back, so it's harder to point and hit him, he can ... och, there are lots of things, treehugging is just one of many alternatives and not the most honorable one.
Yea, i know it's stupid to talk about honour in an unbalanced game, where everybody is only looking for easy kills ... so yes, call me stupid, but at least i don't need to feel ashamed when i finally get my rp's after a victory.
This is ridiculous! At least when your enemy is behind a tree, you can select him. Players who run around the enemy in circles are the ones who have no honour at all. How can you select a player like that?

See how stupid you sound?
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:32 AM   #26
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You seem to forget, like so many others, that even if treehugging is a tactic, it's not the ONLY tactic.
When an archer is under confuse he still can use lots of other skills, he still can run around the enemy in circles or close behind his back, so it's harder to point and hit him, he can ... och, there are lots of things, treehugging is just one of many alternatives and not the most honorable one.
Yea, i know it's stupid to talk about honour in an unbalanced game, where everybody is only looking for easy kills ... so yes, call me stupid, but at least i don't need to feel ashamed when i finally get my rp's after a victory.
Good luck running circles around a marksman that just cast BoW on you from 40m.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:22 AM   #27
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At least when your enemy is behind a tree, you can select him.
When an enemy is running around a tree all the time every spell with casttime above 0.5 will be most likely interrupted because "you don't face the enemy".

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Players who run around the enemy in circles are the ones who have no honour at all.
Kidding? 1 April was a few days ago :-)

The chance to cast a spell on someone who is running around you is 10x bigger then on someone who is running around a tree. Ever tried it?
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:44 AM   #28
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The chance to cast a spell on someone who is running around you is 10x bigger then on someone who is running around a tree. Ever tried it?
Must be why people are smart enough to hug a tree when they're dizzied, confused, ... instead of just running around in circles.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:11 AM   #29
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This thread made me cast facepalm(5) IRL.
Indeed, i will never ever treehug on any of chars i play (except lvl37 conju :3 )
If i will be given UBER OP GEAR. But while i don't have it... sry.... i will treehug everyfight as hunter,marks (that actually makes hunting with marks fun: treehugging against archers) or lock.
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #30
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So basically you are complaining that someone else wins using a tactic and you don't.
This.

Trying to say a perfectly efficient tactic is shameful is just lame. If they keep hugging the tree ever so tightly and you go close and get yourself killed you are the one who didn't play well. Learn to attack and retreat when you must.
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