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Old 03-25-2013, 11:09 PM   #21
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Nothing can be as fun as actually seeing landroval / landz from the front. Problem is it never happens.

Wonder if hes made a goat or igg yet.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:02 AM   #22
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i think you are one of the best marx's out there (probably the best on youtube).
I have respect for you.

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:17 AM   #23
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Except under certain circumstances, both are lame to do in 1v1, imo. Saying "some people prefer RvR > PvP" is just some lame excuse for them to play like cowards and not fight unless they have a zerg behind them. That excuse goes in one ear and out the other.

I despise people who play like the ones in my video, or who play worse (coughelva/landrofailcough), to each his/her own..
I hate it when people try to force their style of play on others. PvP is boring, I don't PvP. If I want to play a good PvP game, I'll play something like Mortal Kombat. Fighing a mass battle between 2 reasonably close groups requires a lot more skill and coordination than PvP. I don't force you to join large battles, don't force me into pvp. Forcing others into PvP is just forcing others to play the way you want.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #24
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Ah, but nothing is an excuse for having a zerg. Zergs are annoying, brainless, uncontrollable, uncoordinated and incapable of communicating. Personally I prefer small fights (like 4 vs 4 or something of the kind), because there teamplay is important and everybody has a role to fulfill, the best team will win that.

But some people lay their priorities somewhere else, I know people that won't PvP at a bridge if challenged because they want to get a.s.a.p. to a fort their realm holds to help out there. Wouldn't be my choice, tactically it's better to disable the threat at the bridge, but every-one has his/her own priorities.

Anyway, in my eyes you place yourself at the same level as the people you despise by doing this kind of things. Which is a shame. Try to place yourself above them.
Small fights >>>>>

Yes, and I am sure most of those people are the ones that would run from that one person at the bridge whether they had an enemy fort or not; besides, like you said, it is tactically better to disable the threat at the bridge. If they go around then they just leave that enemy there and some unsuspecting person/people will get killed.

I don't mind being on their level ^^



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i think you are one of the best marx's out there (probably the best on youtube).
I have respect for you.

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I hate it when people try to force their style of play on others. PvP is boring, I don't PvP. If I want to play a good PvP game, I'll play something like Mortal Kombat. Fighing a mass battle between 2 reasonably close groups requires a lot more skill and coordination than PvP. I don't force you to join large battles, don't force me into pvp. Forcing others into PvP is just forcing others to play the way you want.
How am I trying to force my play style on others? If this video is forcing my play style on others, then how are my other videos not doing it either? A successful argument can be made that my other videos are just as publicly humiliating and play style forcing, or even more so, than this one. I could argue that my other videos are mocking players that aren't as good as me and basically saying that they need to be as good as me, get better, or quit.

I don't like PvP either. There are way too many random resists and evades, and it makes me rage...hard, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a pussy when someone tries to fight me 1v1.

FYI, fighting a "mass battle", whether the groups are even or not, is a complete matter of opinion. I think mass battles take less skill than PvPs for every class except knight and conj. Small group fights take more skill than any thing else imo.

Again, how am I forcing people to PvP when I greatly dislike PvP.
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:32 PM   #25
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Small fights >>>>>
How am I trying to force my play style on others? If this video is forcing my play style on others, then how are my other videos not doing it either? A successful argument can be made that my other videos are just as publicly humiliating and play style forcing, or even more so, than this one. I could argue that my other videos are mocking players that aren't as good as me and basically saying that they need to be as good as me, get better, or quit.

I don't like PvP either. There are way too many random resists and evades, and it makes me rage...hard, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a pussy when someone tries to fight me 1v1.

Again, how am I forcing people to PvP when I greatly dislike PvP.
I'm not saying You are forcing anyone to pvp, I'm not here to name names. All I'm saying is that there are people who try to force people into PvP. I avoid pvp like the plagie, it's simply no fun. So either I just keep running maybe adding a single freeze or knock, or I just stop and do nothing. Dying is more fun than PvP, and avoiding it has nothing to do with being a pussy.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:32 PM   #26
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In my opinion, comparing PvP and RvR is like comparing apples and orange : they serve different purposes and need different types of skill. Because yes, there's not one and only innate "skill" attribute like some like to think and spread. For instance, PvPish will require more timing and execution skills, since you can easily keep the whole situation in your control, while RvRish will require more situational reaction and teamwork since you will most likely be disabled and/or in trouble as you cannot control the whole situation as it's very unpredictable. There's no absolute fair situation at all either. PvPish is easily driven by gear and luck while RvRish is easily driven by numbers, the TDMs are a good example of "small fights" fairness too, and finally add on top of this the class imbalances and so on...

Now this game is about war. War is genuinely unfair since it's mostly about killing the most while trying to survive. Seriously who cares that people choose to play this or that way. If they want to be cowards not risking tough fights, so be it, it's just as "lame" as ganking grinders or dismounting with Confuse but all is fine since it is not, and doesn't have to be fair. As far as I know there's no right and unique way to play this game, everyone plays as he wants to as it should be, else there would be no point playing. Now we all have our own opinion and playing style, but publicly despise people for not playing the game "your own way" isn't the best thing you could do verily...

And on top of that I don't know on which dimension you must be living to blame people that choose to RvR when it's the main point of this game and where the balance is tending to...

TLDR: GTFO and go play Street Fighter instead if you want (more or less) absolute fairness and balance.
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