NGD Hacked Accounts.

[SanguineLamai]

Originally Posted by andres81

There is only one way to clean this up, recovering a backup from before this all happened

yes but if you do nothing to stop it, itll just happen again.

The issue of how the person attained access needs to be addressed, and once thats fixed, then give everyone their stuff back.

[andres81]

Originally Posted by SanguineLamai

yes but if you do nothing to stop it, itll just happen again.

The issue of how the person attained access needs to be addressed, and once thats fixed, then give everyone their stuff back.

When they hacked Gamigo (this is the hoster of the german Regnum worlds) last year it happened through the forums which shared the database with the Regnum accounts. They promised to solve this vulnerability within the next week but the fact is that they never turned back to this integrated forum stuff - more than a year passed since then and appearently they still could not fix it - now the forums are independent without the possibility to enter using your game character name and password.

It's just a blind guess but could be still the same problem now at Haven and the brasilian server.

[SanguineLamai]

Is there a known similar effect happening on Ra?

I havent heard nor were aware.

[andres81]

Originally Posted by SanguineLamai

Is there a known similar effect happening on Ra?

No, but this is not a proof that the RA accounts are safe, it is possible that the intrusor is just not interested in RA.

[SanguineLamai]

Hmmmm, seems like level of impact would draw a predator.

There are more accounts on Ra, older players, and I have to believe a wider spread of gear.

I might be wrong though.

[andres81]

Originally Posted by SanguineLamai

Hmmmm, seems like level of impact would draw a predator.

There are more accounts on Ra, older players, and I have to believe a wider spread of gear.

I might be wrong though.

We don't know how it happened and we don't know why they hacked it nor what their goals are. However if the goal would be making the worst damage possible to NGD they would have posted all the access data like they did in the Gamigo Hacking instead of (randomly?) selecting some accounts and making mess there and insulting other players through the chat.
This here seems to be more personally and for making that it is not usefull to enter a game world where the attacker never played. Are these actions related to some realms or happening in all 3?

[SanguineLamai]

Ive heard Alsius, Syrtis, and Ignis alike all complain about the problem.

I dont think its realm specific.

[ice_zero_cool]

Originally Posted by Imago-Thunderfist

...because no-one will want to part with your gear because they obtained it in a "fair" way, from their perspective anyway.

this is right. also, i guess much of the stuff that was bought by lvl 20 - 30's did already get traded a few times each. they wont be able to track this down.

Originally Posted by andres81

There is only one way to clean this up, recovering a backup from before this all happened

they would have to recover it from weeks ago then. tons of data would be lost, and i think many players would stop playing then, most probably the ones who can restart completely, because the server was reset to a time their characters and accounts did not yet exist..

(when gamigo recovered a backup when they were hacked, it was enough to back up 1 or 2 days prior to the events. but even this already caused a major uproar...)

i think the "best" solution would be to just generate items that were "lost" and give them to the players who "lost" them. it is not an "elegant" solution though.
anyways, i doubt that any solution would be "elegant" right now.

[Tamui]

No wonder there has been a lot of big-egos-newbies-bastards lately.
IMO would do as Gamigo did. Bacck-ups. Especially in this case where his characters are in process of getting deleted.
As for the people who got the stolen gear the fair way, I'd give them some platinum boxes or ximerin.

[andres81]

Originally Posted by ice_zero_cool

i think the "best" solution would be to just generate items that were "lost" and give them to the players who "lost" them. it is not an "elegant" solution though.
anyways, i doubt that any solution would be "elegant" right now.

I doubt if they can do this, there were severall tiems lost in RA server after some updates (bows, rings etc.) and NGD promised to give this stuff back when we send a support ticket saying what is lost. Well, I sent this ticket more than 6 month ago and guess what?
Nothing has been returned. Imho they just don't have the tools to check if you really posessed such items and I think they don't have tools to create and grant items to players neither.

Surak (one of the coders) said somewhere in the spanish forums when the brasilian players complaint about this hacking issue that they will start programming some tool to recover player characters after the easter break so it seems that at the moment they just can't do it.

I know that recovering a backup in an online game is kind of a no go but the question here is, are players that played this game for years and lost everything less important than some newcomers that would loose what they did last week in the game?