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Old 04-19-2013, 12:23 PM   #21
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It cannot be enforced but at the same time, there is no disincentive to it either.

I reiterate that the genesis of multi realming comes from the fact that there is an abrupt lack of end content. Combine this with the fact that the levelling curve is not incredibly difficult ( some will not agree with this) and that NGD, in its attempts to gather revenue, actually encourage this. Right now, the more cash you have the easier it is to multi realm and with a lot of level 60s.

This is where the free component comes in. There must be enough disincentive to multi realm.
Realm loyalty bonuses is the way to go. Some bait with minor sums of Ximerin or even premium item. Others reward with exclusive exotic items that do not impact gameplay. For example, clothing, dances, emotes etc.
In other cases, there are rewards for loyalty which improve your character. These would come in the form of traits. These are hard to get and require time (and not money) to acquire.

Even special things like a special island players can get to (with a special boss that drops special things) but only after they made the time based achievements to get there. Obviously this time will not be a low number and not take into consideration the time they already spent in game on a specific realm. Obviously, they will have to keep clocking some time (more loyalty) to keep going back. Your ticket to the special place is realm loyalty.

Calling on people's moral compass will not work. Never has, never will. The only thing that works is the carrot on the stick approach.

With all this said, unless NGD finds alternate and better revenue than boosters, horses and lucky boxes (all revenue enhanced by multirealming) these ideas I write will never see the light of day.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:40 PM   #22
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Man, two copies of the game for two different users, using different-eth adapters will solve this problem easily.
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but can do something like that to get hd serial

on c++ using system(hdparm -i /dev/sda | grep -i serial) on linux.. (u can use dual boot / diff user doesnt matter... the hash id is the same)

well it's not my job. i dont work on ngd
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:09 PM   #23
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I think multi realming should be possible if not abused. I myself switched realms, and of course kept my syrtis account. After all i played a lot there and it will be a waste to delete characters and gear. I just have no heart to delete my old conjus which i love.

Still i noticed a strange trend several times. For example Syrtis got a big population boost at times they invaded at daily basis. Alot new high level players just popped in and started to play. When this madness finished same players just vanished.

I still think a nice solution to multirealming will be the mercenary idea. You can go in other realm for a period of time and if you wish stay there. Of Course this switches are restricted. I played other games where there was a market instance which was possible to be entered from every realm. Was very popular and nice to see trade and talk with different people.
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Old 04-20-2013, 05:52 PM   #24
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Last night when Ignis got the last Relic a bunch of my realm disappeared. It wasn't that Ignis needed more players to carry of a successful invasion but it did make defending against it impossible.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:11 PM   #25
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I log into other realms sometimes to hunt with friends there. I'm originally from Ignis (ra), and Moved to Alsius (raven), then when the servers merged (Horus + Raven) I was a multi \o/

I must admit I rarely play for a realm, I play for my friends - I'll hunt with my friends. I don't invade with Ignis or Syrtis though, if i'm on Ignis or Syrtis I don't take part in invasion process at all :P

I think this is how most people do it.. they just log in to other realms to play with their friends there for a short period of time.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:49 AM   #26
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Last night when Ignis got the last Relic a bunch of my realm disappeared. It wasn't that Ignis needed more players to carry of a successful invasion but it did make defending against it impossible.
I was hoping more people would post in this thread after everything that was said in realm chat. I don't know how you people can still argue that multirealming isn't a bad thing. Where do you think a lot of the alsius night crew came from up until the last two weeks? Where do you think they went? That's pretty easy to answer. It's obvious that whatever realm the multi's move to becomes the dominant realm, it's completely upset the balance of the realms in the game. You want to say it's normal ebb and flow of players...bullcrap...the population is too low here, and there aren't enough new players joining the warzone to create a problem like this.
It's the people that are loyal to their realm that suffer, they are the ones left behind to try to defend their realm and deal with the problems this creates.

What should NGD do? Whatever it takes or whatever they can. They should ban their multi accounts, and not give them back afterward like they did with known cheaters.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:09 AM   #27
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I love switching to the winner side all the time.
Hope they'll never make an ip- and hardware-id-based-timer to avoid switching realms..or an anticheat like this to make bans usefull..
And finally i love legal multiaccs most <3
*ironic? maybe...maybe not. Who cares*

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Old 04-21-2013, 07:11 AM   #28
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Where do you think a lot of the alsius night crew came from up until the last two weeks? Where do you think they went? That's pretty easy to answer. It's obvious that whatever realm the multi's move to becomes the dominant realm, it's completely upset the balance of the realms in the game. You want to say it's normal ebb and flow of players...bullcrap...the population is too low here, and there aren't enough new players joining the warzone to create a problem like this.
I think the answer is actually quite a bit more obvious than that. You seem to be convinced that multirealmers randomly switching realms determines which realm is dominant, yet the problem being discussed is that multirealmers are moving to the dominant realm. That argument is a bit circular, don't you think? If multirealmers move to join the dominant realm, then multirealmers aren't the cause of shifting dominance, they're an effect.

You, and players like you, have come to these conclusions as a result of:
-taking this game way too seriously
-taking your realm way too seriously
-being sore losers

The real reason your Alsius night crew had a surge in activity, and then a reversal of fortunes is that people play to have fun. Winning is more fun than losing. If Alsius starts doing well, your players stay on longer, they war more, and when they log off for the night they're more likely to come back the next night. That's what happens when you enjoy yourself. Similarly, if Alsius starts doing poorly the opposite happens. It really is that simple, and has little or nothing to do with multirealmers, let alone a massive zerg of them flip-flopping realms all at once to turn the tide of wars
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:15 AM   #29
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I think the answer is actually quite a bit more obvious than that. You seem to be convinced that multirealmers randomly switching realms determines which realm is dominant, yet the problem being discussed is that multirealmers are moving to the dominant realm. That argument is a bit circular, don't you think? If multirealmers move to join the dominant realm, then multirealmers aren't the cause of shifting dominance, they're an effect.

You, and players like you, have come to these conclusions as a result of:
-taking this game way too seriously
-taking your realm way too seriously
-being sore losers

The real reason your Alsius night crew had a surge in activity, and then a reversal of fortunes is that people play to have fun. Winning is more fun than losing. If Alsius starts doing well, your players stay on longer, they war more, and when they log off for the night they're more likely to come back the next night. That's what happens when you enjoy yourself. Similarly, if Alsius starts doing poorly the opposite happens. It really is that simple, and has little or nothing to do with multirealmers, let alone a massive zerg of them flip-flopping realms all at once to turn the tide of wars
Totally agree. Helps me to go on switching to the dominant side..dominant a bit or much more...who cares? Great post. Tyvm
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Totally agree. Helps me to go on switching to the dominant side..dominant a bit or much more...who cares? Great post. Tyvm


It's odd though, I've mostly noticed you switching to the losing side
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