Balance Update: official thread (stage 1)

[Znurre]

Originally Posted by dejan

All I can say: it is good Kyrottimus does not do "balance" for Regnum...

Noone should do balance alone imo. because it's hard to be unbiased, but I would vote for Kyro to join up with an elected Regnum balance team anytime.

[doppelapfel]

Originally Posted by Znurre

Noone should do balance alone imo. because it's hard to be unbiased, but I would vote for Kyro to join up with an elected Regnum balance team anytime.

Sth like that would be awesome. At least one (very experienced) player from every class telling NGD the problems we have atm, possible solutions and suggestions from other players. NGD doesnt seem to have the time to play their game often and read everything in the forum (this should not be a critique, i know that your team isnt that big and that you have many things to do, so this userteam would probably help you a lot).

[Kyrottimus]

Originally Posted by dejan

All I can say: it is good Kyrottimus does not do "balance" for Regnum...

Yeah, I know how archers feel. It would be a real drag for you all to no longer be hugely advantaged over warriors. When I play either archer class (including petless hunter), fighting warriors is ridiculously easy and wholly unfulfilling. Knights are more of a challenge than barbs, who are just gluttons for pain from any archer.

[dejan]

Kyrottimus - it is impossible, and i repeat - IMPOSSIBLE, to ballance the game for every possible situation. The situation you refer to is actually irrelevant. (Yeah, many people will probably shout at me now)

Regnum is a RvR game, and THAT is the context where ballance team should have their focus on.

Kyrottimus, in my humble opinion, completely failed with his proposition because it is obvious he speaks of ballance in PvP cases (and his replies prove this). There will never be ballance of classes for PvP in a RvR game!!! It is impossible, as i wrote at the start...

Sure, if NGD plans to make RO more PvP oriented, then Kyrottimus proposal makes sense...

[ncvr]

Yeah dejan, we get it. It's impossible to balance the game perfectly for just RvR either since that's 10x more complicated than PvP. Just stop derailing this thread.

[Barya]

Originally Posted by Kyrottimus

Yeah, I know how archers feel. It would be a real drag for you all to no longer be hugely advantaged over warriors. When I play either archer class (including petless hunter), fighting warriors is ridiculously easy and wholly unfulfilling. Knights are more of a challenge than barbs, who are just gluttons for pain from any archer.

Soon i saw shaa door down only by rangers. Game is fully switched - all powers barbarian should have - backstabbing invisibility, speed, high critical rate, high hit chance, high attack speed - all have hunter class.

Balance creators, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK on other good balanced games, there is a lot of already existed good solutions, like RTS Warcraft III balance solutions. This even allow be a champion in Warcraft III with ANY RACE. SO GOOD BALANCED.

[doppelapfel]

Originally Posted by Barya

Soon i saw shaa door down only by rangers. Game is fully switched - all powers barbarian should have - backstabbing invisibility, speed, high critical rate, high hit chance, high attack speed - all have hunter class.

Balance creators, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK on other good balanced games, there is a lot of already existed good solutions, like RTS Warcraft III balance solutions. This even allow be a champion in Warcraft III with ANY RACE. SO GOOD BALANCED.

i dont like your posts about making RO a game like any other. Just accept that its different and that hunters are the guys with camo here for example. I think its possible to balance classes without just copieing those from other games.

[HuntShot]

Originally Posted by doppelapfel

i dont like your posts about making RO a game like any other. Just accept that its different and that hunters are the guys with camo here for example. I think its possible to balance classes without just copieing those from other games.

Well I normally would agree with you on that point but hes right.
Warcraft III really is a good balanced game and I dont say Regnum isnt(it is )
but we could take a very little peek into other games maybe for some ideas I dont know and with this I dont mean like Adding spells which already exist in other games or so, no I just mean look at some few other games just a little bit maybe it will give NGD a good idea for some problems we cant solve.


Just Sayin'

[ncvr]

Warcraft III may be balanced, but it's not "class" balanced. There are no classes, only hero chars. The only balance exists between races, and it's pretty easy to give them all balanced heroes/units. The WC3 concept of balance has absolutely nothing to do with Regnum.

[doppelapfel]

Originally Posted by HuntShot

Well I normally would agree with you on that point but hes right.
Warcraft III really is a good balanced game and I dont say Regnum isnt(it is )
but we could take a very little peek into other games maybe for some ideas I dont know and with this I dont mean like Adding spells which already exist in other games or so, no I just mean look at some few other games just a little bit maybe it will give NGD a good idea for some problems we cant solve.


Just Sayin'

Of course NGD can take a look at other games and maybe get inspired by them but what he said was to give barbarians camo, this would mean a complet rework of those two classes (and to balance it of the others too) and complains of all hunters (yes they are op but that doesnt mean that they should give their main point, camo, to another class). This may (and will) not be done.