Unbalanced population

[Lebeau]

Originally Posted by schachteana

I don't think it is right to improve guards / forts of the weaker realms.
The realm which has the big zerg should actually be the strongest one in the warzone. Otherwise, it would be a bit unfair I think.
At the moment, invasions are nearly impossible if the invaders have about the same amount of online players as the defenders have. There has to be this kind of "mass wins - system" in Regnum because it is part of the mechanics.

Though, I agree the situation regularly tends to escalate. Maybe encouraging new players strongly to join the weakest realm is the best idea.

BTDT (for years now) & the ol' stick-&-carrot approach had it's chance & still has yet to work. It doesn't work "best" ... it doesn't work at ALL ... never did ... never will. Encourage noobs to join beaten-down realms all u want, but it changes appreciably nothing. No if's, and's, but's or "maybe's"....

Btw, how dafuq does any rational being proclaim that the idea of 'leveling the playing field to keep things balanced/interesting' is "UNFAIR". I know that a very vocal & dominance-addicted minority here truly LIKE this shitty "mass wins - system" & being in the zerg realm & steamrolling over the weaksauce realms ... make u feel big & strong? ... a 'real' He-Man? ... it's all pixels, bros ... but, well, tbph idky YOU prefer it, schachteana, so I'd like to hear a complete explanation of this seemingly UNtenable position, p & ty....

All that being said tho ... yes, invasion mechanics ARE thoroughly broken (it does take 3 or 4 to 1 odds to have a solid chance to successfully invade ... which is total bs imbalance ... & thus, it really needs a thorough re-balancing overhaul by the devs ... /me crosses fingers for umpteenth time) & secondly, yes, the really drawn-out & delaying zerg-realm-rewarding relics' scheme of things & also the relic/invasion lock originally were & both still remain VERY bad ideas ... some other form of invasion-NOW-concept requiring no preliminary time-consuming hurdle-races would be better. It's all academic ... for the zerg-realm, it's an exercise in waiting around for the timers & keeping the zerg together, whether standing around or on occasion, moving ... & for the weaksauce realms, it's all a not-gonna'-hap'n exercise in utter futility.

Proof? As is, only the current-zerg-realm tends to invade at all now & is definitely the only one who can do so successfully ... & both because only overwhelming numbers & total overkill get's it done now ... bleh. (completely predictable + long-&-drawn-out - any real balance = unfair/trite/boring ... just sayin', folks ....).

[Cannas]

U retards are so fun, when ignis is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when alsius is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when syrtis is underpopulated you see someone cry at forum?, No lol, when alsignis invade syrtis and worked together even helped to carrier gems, someone cryed?, no lol, U noobs are retards, cry babys, u just can complain about noobs than just play in realms with more ppl on

[Wi3ld]

Originally Posted by Cannas

U retards are so fun, when ignis is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when alsius is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when syrtis is underpopulated you see someone cry at forum?, No lol, when alsignis invade syrtis and worked together even helped to carrier gems, someone cryed?, no lol, U noobs are retards, cry babys, u just can complain about noobs than just play in realms with more ppl on

You're a very likeable person

[Rising_Cold]

Originally Posted by Cannas

U retards are so fun, when ignis is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when alsius is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when syrtis is underpopulated you see someone cry at forum?, No lol, when alsignis invade syrtis and worked together even helped to carrier gems, someone cryed?, no lol, U noobs are retards, cry babys, u just can complain about noobs than just play in realms with more ppl on

we know, we love you cannas
and the 30 other gelfs who outnumber both realms combined at once which I hvnt seen alsius nor ignis do during my timezone :3

Maybe we europeans just complain more, or we're used to when we point things out they get solved stuff
blame democracy, it gave us the believe our opinions matter

[errei]

cannas is such a bright person

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Originally Posted by Cannas

U retards are so fun, when ignis is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when alsius is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when syrtis is underpopulated you see someone cry at forum?, No lol, when alsignis invade syrtis and worked together even helped to carrier gems, someone cryed?, no lol, U noobs are retards, cry babys, u just can complain about noobs than just play in realms with more ppl on

Your gf has pr0 boobies.

OT: we'd rather have all 3 realms balanced all the time. big ask, i know

[Lebeau]

Originally Posted by Cannas

U retards are so fun, when ignis is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when alsius is overpopulated and invade, who cry at forum?, when syrtis is underpopulated you see someone cry at forum?, No lol, when alsignis invade syrtis and worked together even helped to carrier gems, someone cryed?, no lol, U noobs are retards, cry babys, u just can complain about noobs than just play in realms with more ppl on

Retards? US?! Hey, if I'm reading this hardcore-mook-alert blather correctly, 'CANNdyASs' is telling us all to multirealm & to play in the current zerg realm. Yo 'genius'! Problem with that FAIL master-plan is, if everyone did take this bad advice, then no one would ever play in the other 2 realms which are weak atm. THE ZERG v nobody v none ... oh yeah ... fun, fun.....

Originally Posted by DonatoRLD

Jesus christ has nobody slapped the optimism out of you yet.

Make a proper post Labeau.

Hey buck-a-roo, u like THIS one any betta', my man?

[leafdale]

Lebeau on allowing zerging-

Originally Posted by Lebeau

...It doesn't work "best" ... it doesn't work at ALL ... never did ... never will. Encourage noobs to join beaten-down realms all u want, but it changes appreciably nothing. No if's, and's, but's or "maybe's"....

I agree with Lebeau's attitude on zerging. It just doesn't contribute to the game.

Imho (and ive supported this position no matter which realm is dominant): realm numbers (and even skill imbalance) is the number one impediment to growth in haven player numbers.

[Lebeau]

Originally Posted by leafdale

Lebeau on allowing zerging-


I agree with Lebeau's attitude on zerging. It just doesn't contribute to the game...

Actually, the quote you used in your post above isn't about zerging, it's in reply to schachteana concerning how to balance population. I suggested a coded scalability fix & he countered that such was "unfair" (tho I remain puzzled about how this could be so) & he went on to claim that reward-benefits for the weaker realms would somehow boost their population. As stated in your selected quote, I (& past reality) strongly disagreed.

As to my attitude on zerging tho, in the as-is-version of CoR atm, zerging is sadly & maddeningly all that ever f-ing works now for capturing relics & for successfully invading, & yes, that is one MAJOR point-of-contention I have with CoR RvR. Invasion-mechanics need a thorough overhaul by NGD devs that includes scalability & that will allow ANY reasonable number of players (however small), in a much shorter span of time (the current scheme only allows the full mustering of the zerg & then rewards it), a legitimate chance at invading successfully if they play well & smart. /me dreams on....

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[Candyx]

The balance issues in Heaven are terrible. Speaking as a Syrtian in a time when Syrtis is the zerg realm, it sucks. There's very little enjoyment in killing 5 enemies when you're part of a zerg of 20. But there's also not much that anyone can do about it. Any of the measures you've suggested have to great an effect on the populations of Alsuis and Ignis and would result in one of the other realms being overpopulated at some point. I assume this is why the zerg realm changes every couple of months. I also doubt you can do much to fix it effectively, 20 players should beat 5. It's just a shame that there are proportions of 20 v 5.