Sytris save campers - why you ? - Page 4

misaccc · 12-02-2007, 12:41 PM

Nope if every class can somehow detect it then it looses its sense

Myxir · 12-02-2007, 12:48 PM

There are several ways to detect a group hiding with stalker.
1. Enemy Surveillance and Track Realm Enemy (both spells track camouflage and stalker)
2. Use area spell (you will see/hear, that you hit the enemy)

3. Pull Agro mobs where you think the enemy is hiding. They will hit the invisible players.

makarios68 · 12-02-2007, 12:51 PM

As far as i'm aware hunters can track enemies under stalker (tho i'm not sure if this a bug or not) but they can't track hunters under camoflauge.

Many times i have tracked hunters under stalker.

As for taking away the stalker spell: i say only if you take away one of the best spells from every class.

But what's the point of that: leave things as they and do as Boger says: stop whingeing and just play.

Myxir · 12-02-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by makarios68

but they can't track hunters under camoflauge.

You can also track Hunters in camouflage.
Yesterday I did it.

One · 12-02-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Myxir

You can also track Hunters in camouflage.
Yesterday I did it.

Is what I said earlier, for someone it works, for someone it doesn't. So NGD fix this or just remove camouflage and stalker.

Myxir · 12-02-2007, 01:16 PM

I think in general invisible people should be able to be tracked. You simply cannot move without spreading traces on the ground.
Also this gives the invisible people some tactical methods. If the hunter casts the track spell you can rush out of invisibility using Mobility. This gives you enough time to get out of range sometimes even the view range.

But we are getting offtopic.

magnet · 12-02-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by One

Is what I said earlier, for someone it works, for someone it doesn't. So NGD fix this or just remove camouflage and stalker.

Well as you say, you've been hunter for so long and you should know WHY you don't get tracks... I'm sure someone will be kind enough to fill you in, but you can track people in Camouflage AND Stalker. For stalker I did it a few times, last time was yesterday, when a hunter tracked Nessa (btw the hunter was so noob he didn't understand it was stalker and was ready to fall in the trap later

).

NDG has stated a few times that the tracking spells are not meant to be GPS, 100% precise, and they don't work in some situations. Personally I really like it the way it is even if there is room for improvement (missing 1 guy OK, but a party of 8 should never happen).

makarios68 · 12-02-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by One

Is what I said earlier, for someone it works, for someone it doesn't.

Yes - it must be hit and miss coz it doesn't work for me.

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Originally Posted by One

So NGD fix this or just remove camouflage and stalker.

No - how can you say that? This would ruin hunters completely.

One · 12-02-2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by makarios68

Yes - it must be hit and miss coz it doesn't work for me.

No - how can you say that? This would ruin hunters completely.

Think in other way : what's the point to use camouflage or stalker if you're trackable?

DkySven · 12-02-2007, 01:48 PM

There's not always a hunter around. And for camouflage, what Nessa said.

12-02-2007, 12:48 PM	#32
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	There are several ways to detect a group hiding with stalker. 1. Enemy Surveillance and Track Realm Enemy (both spells track camouflage and stalker) 2. Use area spell (you will see/hear, that you hit the enemy) 3. Pull Agro mobs where you think the enemy is hiding. They will hit the invisible players. __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.

12-02-2007, 01:16 PM	#36
Myxir Count Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,164	I think in general invisible people should be able to be tracked. You simply cannot move without spreading traces on the ground. Also this gives the invisible people some tactical methods. If the hunter casts the track spell you can rush out of invisibility using Mobility. This gives you enough time to get out of range sometimes even the view range. But we are getting offtopic. __________________ French Warriors of Syrtis: Nessa Telrunya (Hunter) - Myxir (Warlock) - Estra (Conjurer) In War it does not matter who is right, but who is left.

12-02-2007, 01:48 PM	#40
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	There's not always a hunter around. And for camouflage, what Nessa said. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

12-02-2007, 12:41 PM	#31
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	Nope if every class can somehow detect it then it looses its sense

12-02-2007, 12:51 PM	#33
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	As far as i'm aware hunters can track enemies under stalker (tho i'm not sure if this a bug or not) but they can't track hunters under camoflauge. Many times i have tracked hunters under stalker. As for taking away the stalker spell: i say only if you take away one of the best spells from every class. But what's the point of that: leave things as they and do as Boger says: stop whingeing and just play.