Playing and abilities: Knights - Page 4

DkySven · 06-27-2008, 04:35 PM

While grinding and wandering through the warzone I developed a tactic for knights to scare away or even kill high level hunters with pet.

You'll need:
a spear with balestra (3th spell in piercing)
army of one(10th of vanguard)
high level shield, try to get it maxed and put points into block and precise block, you need to block key-spells if you want to win.
mind squasher(8th of blunt)
and of course the usual stuff: feint, shield bash, spring, caution, etc.

When a hunter attacks you, cast Army of One(500 mana is a lot, but you don't need much spells against a pet, you'll regenerate a part of your mana), weapon buffs and taunt the pet. In case you hit extremely low the hunter probably casted skin of the beast, dispell this with mind squasher. If you're lucky you'll manage to kill the pet and have 1/2-1/3 health left. Of course you need some luck, like blocking ambush, stunning fist or confuse but when I had full health I always managed to kill the pet. After pet is dead some of hunter's evasion buffs might have run out too.

Run towards the hunter. Some hunters don't want to fight without pet and run, try to catch them with balestra. When you are close to the hunter release your full arsenal, mind squash his buffs, keep him dizzy so he can't cast his evasion-buffs, feint him. If he casts SotW and keeps attacking cast precise block+protector and pray to the gods of RNG. If you survived until now and you got the hunter's health down he'll (try to) run away at a certain moment. He can use escapist, use balestra and mind squasher, SotW, use mind squasher, this might be your lucky day, or just mobility.

If he manage to get away from you follow him out of combat mode to regenerate mana and health. Do not abort the fight if the gap between you and the hunter is not huge, he'll shoot in your back and you can do nothing. Have a spear equipped an your finger at the balestra-shortcut Use spring to keep at least a little close and keep your buffs always on. A hunter will try to turn around and launch an ensnaring arrow/tear apart/break apart/ambush at you. Use this to get close. If you're knocked down the hunter will keep shooting at you. When you're up or blocked/resisted the ambush, or the hunter just launched another spell at you try to get close to him, many hunters turn around just a little too late. In this stadium of the fight you need to kill the hunter or he'll kill you/escapes.

If he kills you, get back there as soon as possible and get revenge, he's on low health now and you're full. If he manages to camouflage rest to gain full health and mana and run around with all your buffs on, he'll return; go back to step 1. Sometimes the gap between you and the hunter becomes huge, take a rest. Hunter and you will have full health and are fully buffed. Go back to step 1. If you can abort the fight without getting shot in the back and the hunter and you are reaching his home realm, abort, there's a big change of running into his realmmates. The hunter will be back, return to step 1. If you manage kill him, yeeeh!

I hope that this is useful for knights, thanks for reading.

BlooD · 06-27-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfghs

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Just a suggestion, use Heroic Presence instead of Army of One.

Hunter doesnt do massive damage so the armor reduction works really well with them, heroic presence in 1 its enough and you have a similar results and 60 secs instead of 30. Also you will not need to put vanguard at 19.

A syrtian knigth taugth me that the other day while i was trying to kill him....

_dracus_ · 06-27-2008, 05:15 PM

I have no pet but I really like you to do that on me, just to see how it works on a crappy hunter like me

Vroek · 06-27-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfghs

In case you hit extremely low the hunter probably casted skin of the beast, dispell this with mind squasher.

I always woundered if you should target the pet or the hunter to dispel this effect?
I have only tried it on the hunter and it didnt work it only dispeled his acrobatic so i asume it works like a buff on the pet :/

Znurre · 06-27-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vroek

I always woundered if you should target the pet or the hunter to dispel this effect?
I have only tried it on the hunter and it didnt work it only dispeled his acrobatic so i asume it works like a buff on the pet :/

Yep all pet buffs does.

DkySven · 06-28-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooD

Just a suggestion, use Heroic Presence instead of Army of One.

Hunter doesnt do massive damage so the armor reduction works really well with them, heroic presence in 1 its enough and you have a similar results and 60 secs instead of 30. Also you will not need to put vanguard at 19.

A syrtian knigth taugth me that the other day while i was trying to kill him....

I don't use AoO against the hunter, but against the pet. Armor reduction works not very good against mobs with slow weapons(cyclops). I could use heroic against non-pet hunters.

I tested mind squasher on a pet which apparently skin of the beast on had. After mind squasher my damage on the pet incresed from 70-120 to 300-350.

misaccc · 07-01-2008, 06:54 AM

What?wasting an AoO on a hunter...pfft...all you need is maxed shields blunt 15 pierce 11...when the hunter attacks cast precise and caution,balestra the pet,ripost, gutting,normal hit...the pet is dead,rush the hunter and mind squash,knock, crushing,knock,damaging spell,normal hits and sprint+balestra when you regen mana for it...recast precise when it wears off but never if you just used some cc spell...

UmarilsStillHere · 09-30-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by misaccc

What?wasting an AoO on a hunter...pfft...all you need is maxed shields blunt 15 pierce 11...when the hunter attacks cast precise and caution,balestra the pet,ripost, gutting,normal hit...the pet is dead,rush the hunter and mind squash,knock, crushing,knock,damaging spell,normal hits and sprint+balestra when you regen mana for it...recast precise when it wears off but never if you just used some cc spell...

11 skills? guess it depends on your spell lvls and Int but that cant leave much left over, and running to regen from a hunter? That cant realy work right? with peirce on 11 you can get balestra on 2 or with blunt, crusing on 3 thats not many seconds to regen mana with...

-RedStar- · 09-30-2008, 07:20 PM

heres another better metod...lvl3 disable limt and balestra(for escapist)....no escape....

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Originally Posted by 210paul

11 skills? guess it depends on your spell lvls and Int but that cant leave much left over, and running to regen from a hunter? That cant realy work right? with peirce on 11 you can get balestra on 2 or with blunt, crusing on 3 thats not many seconds to regen mana with...

when running after the hunter...and with pierce 11 you can have bale on 3

crushing is only worth on lvl1(still a great spell imo)

Alberigh · 09-30-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -RedStar-

heres another better metod...lvl3 disable limt and balestra(for escapist)....no escape....

Disable limps doesn't always works
the damage hit the target but the effect no (its a bug or maybe that's the way it should be with a % of luck for the effect like mind squasd

06-27-2008, 04:35 PM	#31
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Howto Take out pet-hunters While grinding and wandering through the warzone I developed a tactic for knights to scare away or even kill high level hunters with pet. You'll need: a spear with balestra (3th spell in piercing) army of one(10th of vanguard) high level shield, try to get it maxed and put points into block and precise block, you need to block key-spells if you want to win. mind squasher(8th of blunt) and of course the usual stuff: feint, shield bash, spring, caution, etc. When a hunter attacks you, cast Army of One(500 mana is a lot, but you don't need much spells against a pet, you'll regenerate a part of your mana), weapon buffs and taunt the pet. In case you hit extremely low the hunter probably casted skin of the beast, dispell this with mind squasher. If you're lucky you'll manage to kill the pet and have 1/2-1/3 health left. Of course you need some luck, like blocking ambush, stunning fist or confuse but when I had full health I always managed to kill the pet. After pet is dead some of hunter's evasion buffs might have run out too. Run towards the hunter. Some hunters don't want to fight without pet and run, try to catch them with balestra. When you are close to the hunter release your full arsenal, mind squash his buffs, keep him dizzy so he can't cast his evasion-buffs, feint him. If he casts SotW and keeps attacking cast precise block+protector and pray to the gods of RNG. If you survived until now and you got the hunter's health down he'll (try to) run away at a certain moment. He can use escapist, use balestra and mind squasher, SotW, use mind squasher, this might be your lucky day, or just mobility. If he manage to get away from you follow him out of combat mode to regenerate mana and health. Do not abort the fight if the gap between you and the hunter is not huge, he'll shoot in your back and you can do nothing. Have a spear equipped an your finger at the balestra-shortcut Use spring to keep at least a little close and keep your buffs always on. A hunter will try to turn around and launch an ensnaring arrow/tear apart/break apart/ambush at you. Use this to get close. If you're knocked down the hunter will keep shooting at you. When you're up or blocked/resisted the ambush, or the hunter just launched another spell at you try to get close to him, many hunters turn around just a little too late. In this stadium of the fight you need to kill the hunter or he'll kill you/escapes. If he kills you, get back there as soon as possible and get revenge, he's on low health now and you're full. If he manages to camouflage rest to gain full health and mana and run around with all your buffs on, he'll return; go back to step 1. Sometimes the gap between you and the hunter becomes huge, take a rest. Hunter and you will have full health and are fully buffed. Go back to step 1. If you can abort the fight without getting shot in the back and the hunter and you are reaching his home realm, abort, there's a big change of running into his realmmates. The hunter will be back, return to step 1. If you manage kill him, yeeeh! I hope that this is useful for knights, thanks for reading. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

06-27-2008, 05:15 PM	#33
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	I have no pet but I really like you to do that on me, just to see how it works on a crappy hunter like me __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

07-01-2008, 06:54 AM	#37
misaccc Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Belgrade!!! Posts: 1,807	What?wasting an AoO on a hunter...pfft...all you need is maxed shields blunt 15 pierce 11...when the hunter attacks cast precise and caution,balestra the pet,ripost, gutting,normal hit...the pet is dead,rush the hunter and mind squash,knock, crushing,knock,damaging spell,normal hits and sprint+balestra when you regen mana for it...recast precise when it wears off but never if you just used some cc spell...