The 35% onslaught is BS - Page 4

Miraculix · 05-12-2008, 01:14 PM

z0mg 2 barbs hunting down a hunter can work??? WHERE IS THE BALANCE!!!

Ertial · 05-12-2008, 01:36 PM

I agree that hunters shouldn't be able to outrun other classes everytime. But I also don't think it's sensible that a mage can be made able to outrun a hunter. Not all hunters have to points to get Evasion to 19. So until you've got the points to get SotW you're slower than a barbarian or someone with Onslaught. I agree that hunters are fast, but isn't that something a hunter is made for. Barbarians hit insanely high, that's what they do. We run away. It doesn't make much sense in my eyes that the spell a warrior has got to run faster is better than the one archers have. We don't have to wear a lot of armour and a heavy weapon.
Don't forget your disable spells! No one can cast a spell when he's on the ground

(Yes! I know that knights have 'no change' against a hunter. I'm so terribly sorry. But knights are still not fully done if I've read the forums good. So your time will come.. And hey, don't forget you're at least not as 'weak' as a conjurer! And barbarian die fast too when a marksman focusses on them. Some classes are just worse against other classes. So what?)

Latan · 05-12-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yest

Not all hunters have to points to get Evasion to 19.

ahahahahahahahahahhahaahha wtf? ahhahahahahahaha

DkySven · 05-12-2008, 01:44 PM

Where did you read that hunters are made for speed?

Miraculix · 05-12-2008, 01:45 PM

Well, he means hunters below lvl40.

Balance is between lvl50 characters Yest, keep that in mind.

_dracus_ · 05-12-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Latan

ahahahahahahahahahhahaahha wtf? ahhahahahahahaha

Yeah that one was a good one, this is the only thing hunters can have. And hunters with not 19 evasion have at least 15 or 17.

valterbla · 05-12-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Valorius

It's just TOO MUCH speed for a group for TOO Long.

When a max speed hunter needs 500 meters to catch a damn Mage, something is seriously wrong. One or two lag hiccups (and lets face it, in regnum lag hiccups are as common as a blue sky), and catching them becomes impossible.

Totally, utterly ridiculous(and yes, i hear players biitch about this ALL THE TIME in game, so it's not just me)

Onslaught has been constantly screwed with since i started playing Regnum, and guess what NGD- you STILL aint got it right. In honesty, when it was +25 for 30 secs it was the most sensible.

+35/30 is just plain too fast.

muahahahahahaaha

Let me speak "wisely"

Onslaught was +25% speed.
Onslaught was 45 secs duration.

Now

Onslaught is +35% speed.
Onslaugth is 30 secs duration.

Conclusion:

Onslaught as gain 15%+ speed, but lost 30 secs duration.

So in the end, if you are not caugh by the Enemy barbarian, you are not killed and you can run easily, since you have already forever 15% speed, then you make mobility and you have 40% speed. Already more than Onslaught.
Other ways, if you make Ensaring arrow first and then run, onslaught will be 20% speed for 7 secs and then, 23 secs for 35% speed. well problaby you don't have nsaring arrow lvl 5, but lvl 3 is 9% speed less, which is good.

Sorry if i said something bad

Ertial · 05-12-2008, 01:46 PM

So it doesn't matter if everyone under level 50 is unbalanced? Now that's weird.
EDIT: Vaterbla, not everyone has enough points to get Scouting to 17 and Wild Spirit to 5. Not even at level 50!(highlight: if they want to invest points in other setups. It's a bit hard to get all spells and all tabs at 5/19 like some people think when they write a reply.)

fluffy_muffin · 05-12-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Yest

Not even at level 50!

? huh i have 5 lvl since... hmmm.... since afair 40. Yes i had 11 evasion, now 15, but i can live with it :P It is your choice to drop down scouting.

valterbla · 05-12-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yest

EDIT: Vaterbla, not everyone has enough points to get Scouting to 17 and Wild Spirit to 5. Not even at level 50!

Yes, but at lvl 3 both magics are not bad, 9 secs and 9% speed is nice...

05-12-2008, 01:14 PM	#31
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05-12-2008, 01:36 PM	#32
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	I agree that hunters shouldn't be able to outrun other classes everytime. But I also don't think it's sensible that a mage can be made able to outrun a hunter. Not all hunters have to points to get Evasion to 19. So until you've got the points to get SotW you're slower than a barbarian or someone with Onslaught. I agree that hunters are fast, but isn't that something a hunter is made for. Barbarians hit insanely high, that's what they do. We run away. It doesn't make much sense in my eyes that the spell a warrior has got to run faster is better than the one archers have. We don't have to wear a lot of armour and a heavy weapon. Don't forget your disable spells! No one can cast a spell when he's on the ground (Yes! I know that knights have 'no change' against a hunter. I'm so terribly sorry. But knights are still not fully done if I've read the forums good. So your time will come.. And hey, don't forget you're at least not as 'weak' as a conjurer! And barbarian die fast too when a marksman focusses on them. Some classes are just worse against other classes. So what?) __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition!

05-12-2008, 01:44 PM	#34
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05-12-2008, 01:45 PM	#35
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05-12-2008, 01:46 PM	#38
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	So it doesn't matter if everyone under level 50 is unbalanced? Now that's weird. EDIT: Vaterbla, not everyone has enough points to get Scouting to 17 and Wild Spirit to 5. Not even at level 50!(highlight: if they want to invest points in other setups. It's a bit hard to get all spells and all tabs at 5/19 like some people think when they write a reply.) __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition! Last edited by Yest; 05-12-2008 at 02:18 PM.