Missing skilled players in war. - Page 4

Eli2 · 07-03-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

are you in a bad mood eli

?

This forum is just a mirror of what the game has become.
Yes, sometimes that makes me angry and sad.

Angelwinged_Devil · 07-03-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eli2

This forum is just a mirror of what the game has become.
Yes, sometimes that makes me angry and sad.

/me pets eli
there there, we can have a pvp sometime ;D no mod or terror(this one would be stupid anyway

_dracus_ · 07-03-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

/me pets eli
there there, we can have a pvp sometime ;D no mod or terror(this one would be stupid anyway

I lost a PvP against a warlock that used terror to put me on the ground ... don't know if it's stupid, it's a skill that is expensive to have, why not using it ?

Eli2 · 07-03-2008, 03:00 PM

Some time ago i had a pvp like situation against Valorius, i didn't use mod for the sake of warlok pvp tradition from the times when they were not as weak as they are now. And even as he has the stronger class at the moment he did use SotW. Just to give you one example of what the game has become. I just miss "The Spirit" that once ruled this game.

Inkster · 07-03-2008, 04:10 PM

I personally echo Eli's thoughts on the game and forum. Also, the warzone is becoming less and less fun for many reasons

Froste · 07-03-2008, 04:25 PM

Be careful, the first sign of becoming an old fart is to have your own ideals set in stone, made unchanging, and having your failing memory glorifying "The Good Ole' Days", when men were men and women were women, and everything was much better.

There are far more players today, and a larger percentage of the total of these players are simply better players.

If you feel that members of your realm might not be playing to his fullest, then consider that it might be your fault for not teaching them; back in beta and before everything was smaller and more tightly knit (and a lot fewer working skills). It's always up to the existing players to teach the new ones, and when you stop teaching the new waves and instead snorting in derision at them, that's when you're an old geezer (:

Eli2 · 07-03-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Froste

and having your failing memory glorifying "The Good Ole' Days"

If only my memory would fail i could forget the good times and enjoy all the crap that is around today.

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Originally Posted by Froste

If you feel that members of your realm might not be playing to his fullest, then consider that it might be your fault for not teaching them.

Given that the new players actually _want_ to learn something.
How to teach teamplay, respect and experience?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af1OxkFOK18

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Originally Posted by Froste

and when you stop teaching the new waves and instead snorting in derision at them, that's when you're an old geezer (:

I think you got me there i have gotten old ingame, maybe it's time to retire.

backe · 07-03-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Eli2

Given that the new players actually _want_ to learn something.
How to teach teamplay, respect and experience?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af1OxkFOK18

hahaha...bruce campbell ftw
i know, i know...its off topic, but i just couldn't resist!

ontopic:
so maybe its not only the skill level of players that has decreased, but the level of overall maturity? that would certainly make sense to me...

e30G · 07-03-2008, 06:12 PM

Yeah there seems to be a growning number of copycats. It would be nice if they copied good players but some of them just copy lame tactics. I wouldn't be surprised if builds were copied. If it works for you then chances are it will work for somebody else. Besides, we have a limited number of skills, hence theoretically a limited number of build options. Eventually somebody else will stumble on a build that is the same to another player because it works well.

As for skill, I can't tell for sure if the newer players are less skilled or not. I get to meet some potentially good players all around Syrtis.

While individual player skill may be adequate, what is severely lacking is teamplay. Maybe the 10% rule has caused players to level alone more than in the past so they have no clue on good tactics and teamplay. I was once a proponent of the 10% rule (due to the large numbers of extremely low leveled players leeching off high leveled players) but I'm starting to think that it was better (without the 10% rule) since the realm learned how to work together in those huge parties.

Valorius · 07-04-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Eli2

Some time ago i had a pvp like situation against Valorius, i didn't use mod for the sake of warlok pvp tradition from the times when they were not as weak as they are now. And even as he has the stronger class at the moment he did use SotW. Just to give you one example of what the game has become. I just miss "The Spirit" that once ruled this game.

I cast SoTW in CASE you cast MoD.

And to keep you from burning off all my damn mana. Which is also quite annoying.

View Poll Results: How has the number of skilled players changed till the beginning.
There are more skilled Players.	4	9.76%
There are less skilled Players.	30	73.17%
I have not noticed any changes.	7	17.07%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

07-03-2008, 04:10 PM	#35
Inkster Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arse firmly glued to Ra Posts: 1,042	I personally echo Eli's thoughts on the game and forum. Also, the warzone is becoming less and less fun for many reasons __________________ Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/lomgom/

07-03-2008, 04:25 PM	#36
Froste Baron Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Svea Rike Posts: 814	Be careful, the first sign of becoming an old fart is to have your own ideals set in stone, made unchanging, and having your failing memory glorifying "The Good Ole' Days", when men were men and women were women, and everything was much better. There are far more players today, and a larger percentage of the total of these players are simply better players. If you feel that members of your realm might not be playing to his fullest, then consider that it might be your fault for not teaching them; back in beta and before everything was smaller and more tightly knit (and a lot fewer working skills). It's always up to the existing players to teach the new ones, and when you stop teaching the new waves and instead snorting in derision at them, that's when you're an old geezer (: __________________ *Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines...*

07-03-2008, 06:12 PM	#39
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	Yeah there seems to be a growning number of copycats. It would be nice if they copied good players but some of them just copy lame tactics. I wouldn't be surprised if builds were copied. If it works for you then chances are it will work for somebody else. Besides, we have a limited number of skills, hence theoretically a limited number of build options. Eventually somebody else will stumble on a build that is the same to another player because it works well. As for skill, I can't tell for sure if the newer players are less skilled or not. I get to meet some potentially good players all around Syrtis. While individual player skill may be adequate, what is severely lacking is teamplay. Maybe the 10% rule has caused players to level alone more than in the past so they have no clue on good tactics and teamplay. I was once a proponent of the 10% rule (due to the large numbers of extremely low leveled players leeching off high leveled players) but I'm starting to think that it was better (without the 10% rule) since the realm learned how to work together in those huge parties. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

07-03-2008, 03:00 PM	#34
Eli2 Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 73	Some time ago i had a pvp like situation against Valorius, i didn't use mod for the sake of warlok pvp tradition from the times when they were not as weak as they are now. And even as he has the stronger class at the moment he did use SotW. Just to give you one example of what the game has become. I just miss "The Spirit" that once ruled this game.