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Old 07-08-2008, 03:13 PM   #31
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valorius, dmg is not all, long bow has to do less damage than short bows because of it's range, I do agree that long tree is kinda underpowered now in some terms but more superior in range, specially with parabolic which might help out a lot in fort wars (projectyle rain is range 0 so you can cast it safe without being damaged)

"most hunters" use a short bow because of the evasion tree which will let them get close unharmed
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:31 PM   #32
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Since Valorius wanted to change the topic about how overpowered MoD is lets show him the life of a warlock...MoD is sometimes a suicide skill why? it atracks every enemy around you even the guards(if in fort)and since MoD is a war skill not a pvp skill how can it be overpowered..the only times MoD is overpowered is if in a pvp or a little group battle, but this game isnt about pvps. Like i said MoD is a suicide skill in forts unless you are rushing with the warriors which most warlocks dont intend to do, i have 2600 hp at most. in a fort war barbs are there marks are there... i cast MoD marks will go after me, and warlocks are most of the time marks first target casting MoD will make all marks switch targets and barbs go on suicide rushes to kill a warlock with MoD if he starts to get closer.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:22 PM   #33
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"most hunters" use a short bow because of the evasion tree which will let them get close unharmed
What? You know why i am using short bow? From same reasons as many others. Nice dmg, range of tricks and pet. Evasion have nothing to do with it. Fighting with warlock in short distance is much much easier then from 30m. In a matter a fact at long distance i would be forced to count on evasion and on less blocks from wind wall in fight with lock. But ofc you know better why hunters are using short bows. Beside short bow tree have spells i like a lot. And i was using short bow in times when 2/3 archers had long bows.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #34
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yep fluffy, many archers use short bow because most combat control spells are range 25 anyway. Form range 30 you cannot do much more than damage, escpecially when you are a hunter.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:12 PM   #35
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I just noticed a huge increase in short bows after evades and resists became a bigger part of the game
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:00 PM   #36
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Since Valorius wanted to change the topic about how overpowered MoD is lets show him the life of a warlock...MoD is sometimes a suicide skill why? it atracks every enemy around you even the guards(if in fort)and since MoD is a war skill not a pvp skill how can it be overpowered..the only times MoD is overpowered is if in a pvp or a little group battle, but this game isnt about pvps. Like i said MoD is a suicide skill in forts unless you are rushing with the warriors which most warlocks dont intend to do, i have 2600 hp at most. in a fort war barbs are there marks are there... i cast MoD marks will go after me, and warlocks are most of the time marks first target casting MoD will make all marks switch targets and barbs go on suicide rushes to kill a warlock with MoD if he starts to get closer.
I have already addressed all these topics.

If you have good team mates your conjs and knights will buff the heck out of you when you make your MoD. If you don't, they won't.

Of course asking for buffs and announcing your intentions in gen chat helps a lot too, something that most Locks do not do, at least in Syrtis.

And i have not changed the topic.

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What? You know why i am using short bow? From same reasons as many others. Nice dmg, range of tricks and pet. Evasion have nothing to do with it. Fighting with warlock in short distance is much much easier then from 30m. In a matter a fact at long distance i would be forced to count on evasion and on less blocks from wind wall in fight with lock. But ofc you know better why hunters are using short bows. Beside short bow tree have spells i like a lot. And i was using short bow in times when 2/3 archers had long bows.
I agree with this assessment 100%.

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I just noticed a huge increase in short bows after evades and resists became a bigger part of the game
Yep, whats the point in shooting from far away when all of the arrows get blocked?
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:28 PM   #37
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I just noticed a huge increase in short bows after evades and resists became a bigger part of the game
With that deduction i could say that I see more SC users cause of new unstoppable. Or that there is more kids in my town cause of more storks is coming to our city park etc.

I am using short bow cause i don't need long one to do this what you can see at screens. Simple isn't it?
http://files.myopera.com/zielski/zrz...2012_07_24.jpg
http://files.myopera.com/zielski/zrz...2010_13_10.jpg
As you can see this warlock can't whine about evaded spells :>
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:28 AM   #38
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You do more damage to the barb with lvl 4 stun fist than the warlock?
1st shot you have a nice little snake... aww ^^

I personally use shortbow because of dual shot and faster shots from shortbow. I cannot fight with longbow with my style.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:59 AM   #39
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The shortbow skill tree is clearly superior at this time, as is the equipment.

A 20/med Viper SB is a significantly better weapon than a 25/slow Viper LB...not that the 25/slow is bad, it's just clearly not as good.

The Viper SB gives you the same dmg at medium speed (the LB only does a max of +3 pts dmg more than the SB), costs you only 5 meters range for reg and 0 attacks, and has full 30 LB range with your best attack spell, and full 25 range with all your tricks spells.

If i could have any xymerald bow in the game, given the -existing skills trees- it would be a Viper SB with a fire bonus. I would not lose much.
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You do more damage to the barb with lvl 4 stun fist than the warlock?
EB :] only spell he used ;P Like many mages crossing pn. They do that alone. Most of the time unprotected.
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