Sexist Reloaded - Page 4

Kittypretty · 08-07-2008, 01:14 AM

I do not mind it much (and yes i am female)

I realize my in game avatar isnt even close to a true representation of myself anyways, and however/whoever decides to judge me on in game appearance alone..rather than by my personality..thats their weakness not mine.

either way though, i would still like the overall majority to prevail, whatever that may be, but there are more important game design flaws IMO that need to be adressed, and i would like the devs to focus on them, rather than the cosmetic and polish, till they have as stable and balanced game as possible

Pizdzius · 08-07-2008, 01:17 AM

well geez, let ngd focus on other things and till that time, just not walk

it's not hard to avoid it since we mostly run

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 03:12 AM

Now that i've seen the new walk, yes, i think it's over the top slutty. Many players agreed with me in game when i made the observation.

These females are killers, not runway models/street walkers.

Tone it down a bit, and it could be ok.

backe · 08-07-2008, 03:56 AM

People actually walk in this game?

My two cents, Off-topic:
Seriously though, I showed the new walk to a girl I know who used to play and she shrugged saying "Most other games are an order of magnitude worse". I can agree with that, for the most part. I can't even count the number video games that have the excessive "jiggle" factor. TBH this sort of crap gives gamers in general a bad name.

On-topic:
As far as Regnum is concerned, I believe NGD has been for the most part fairly tasteful (minimal jiggliness, fully clothed character models). But, I am not a woman and if the ladies of Regnum think it's offensive then I believe NGD should consider reverting walking to its previous animation, or modifying it.

-Paradox- · 08-07-2008, 06:55 AM

It is funny how NGD claim they are a community based game, when it is clear that alot of women and men do not like this new feature, yet they continue to defend themselves and continue to be stubborn and say they are right and we are wrong. To me that doesn't sound like community based developers but developers that tell the community what they want. NGD you have lost a lot of respect with this new update, I would advise you start reversing some of the mistakes you have put into the game.

ArcticWolf · 08-07-2008, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilko

I wouldn't say that Argentina is an extremely machist country, we might be more obsessed with the female image though... the truth is that most nice looking women in Argentina walk like that.

I cannot concur with that. As you may already know, I'm from Argentina (specifically from Buenos Aires), so I speak from experience. I have a sister, a mother and female friends too, and not a single one of them walks like that, at least 99% of the time. When they want to flirt around or in special occasions like parties they may walk with a more suggestive innuendo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilko

As a proof of the important role of women in our society we actually have a Female president (people say she is kinda cute), and she walks like that... do not insult my president!

There's no reason to plead your arguments by hiding behind an image of beauty that not everyone shares. Keep politics and everything that resembles that off the game, please, and go straight to the point. Having a female president doesn't makes ourselves less male-centered, nor it does reflect what every women in the world wants. You know, I wouldn't want my sister to be all plastic and botox...

Angelwinged_Devil · 08-07-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miriya

A little offtopic answer from me here. I do not feel harassed but I must say that some boys in this (and in any) game can not chat without flirting or even writing offensive statements as a joke. Last week there was a thread on the Spanish Inn asking "If you find an enemy girl, would you kill her?", amazingly some people answer that the would not.
If I have 1 Ximerin for every time I read "Are you a real girl?" follow by "do you have a boyfriend?" I would have lots of premium

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I do not care about all this, I am a grown up woman and I know some boys playing this game are teenagers and they mean no harm, they are just in "that age".
These situations are older than this walking feature and they have nothing to do with this new animation, but the animation may encourage this behaviour.

HAHAHAHAHA, I never thought of the gender of the person I kill, my first thought is the class XD damn, good this thread exists, now we know who the girls are and who the posergirls are *wips eyebrows*kidding XD
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I do not think there is a sexist behaviour from NGD, I do not like the animation because I feel it is a little overdone. I am Argentinian and I agree that some models/cheap-celebs walks like that, but I do not think they are a good example to follow. Furthermore, I do not think a police woman walking like that inspire respect.
And yes, I think the animation movement is better and more realistic

, but I rather to walk like a female warrior than a cute princess.[/QUOTE]
what I meant was, does a regular citizen walk like that, cheap celebs or models doesn't really count in my head and I don't like the slutty/cheap/snobby behaviour some of them have.
I think I need to watch an archerwoman do the walk instead as they've always worn a short skirt.

A warrior woman, hm, let's look at how xena walks XD?

A heroic walk though, shooting your chest forward probably applies to a male, but a female, people get a second kind of thought when this happens, So maybe not xena anyway, but we need something like wonder woman, superwoman etc. And maybe see how they walk when they need to show off, then ngd can have their heroic walk for females, the users won't feel harrassed about how their characters walk and we would all be happy, yay \o/.

Inkster · 08-07-2008, 11:49 AM

I also think the female walk is over the top for many reasons. There are quite young people who play this game for one. also i think it is pretty degrading they way the female char walks to be honest. (i have seen worse in other games but i dont play them).

As stated, there is not a large community of females in this game and for those that are here, i think this new walk animation is totally unnecessary.

Chilko, you replied to Ladylanuna saying what she had said was degrading to your country when she did not whatsoever.
Personally i think more thought should have been given in your reply or a better idea maybe would to have let Kailer Our Community Manager deal with the matter and not yourself.

To finish, this is partly the reason this has happened

http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...696#post480696

Way to Alienate your community NGD well done, congratulations

(I dont know why I even bothered writing this as nothing will be done about it)

Domino_ · 08-07-2008, 11:58 AM

The new animation rock's ^^
And why u call it walk like slut?
To be honest models walk same ....

ExtremeCoder · 08-07-2008, 01:19 PM

While this is a valid argument, I'm not sure it's such a big deal because:
- Most people in Regnum run, it'd be a waste of time to walk.
- Compared to other MMORPGs, this is nothing.
- If you run all the time, no one will notice this new animation. I didn't, except that people here pointed it out.

08-07-2008, 01:17 AM	#32
Pizdzius Baron Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Polish Side of RA Posts: 779	well geez, let ngd focus on other things and till that time, just not walk it's not hard to avoid it since we mostly run __________________ Pizdzius Swedzioszek Leader of CBA Regnum Comic <- my Regnum Comic , RSS version -> RSS (if you wish to contact me on my other realm character: Ignis - Josephine)

08-07-2008, 03:12 AM	#33
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Now that i've seen the new walk, yes, i think it's over the top slutty. Many players agreed with me in game when i made the observation. These females are killers, not runway models/street walkers. Tone it down a bit, and it could be ok. Last edited by Valorius; 08-07-2008 at 05:21 AM.

08-07-2008, 03:56 AM	#34
backe Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 222	People actually walk in this game? My two cents, Off-topic: Seriously though, I showed the new walk to a girl I know who used to play and she shrugged saying "Most other games are an order of magnitude worse". I can agree with that, for the most part. I can't even count the number video games that have the excessive "jiggle" factor. TBH this sort of crap gives gamers in general a bad name. On-topic: As far as Regnum is concerned, I believe NGD has been for the most part fairly tasteful (minimal jiggliness, fully clothed character models). But, I am not a woman and if the ladies of Regnum think it's offensive then I believe NGD should consider reverting walking to its previous animation, or modifying it. Last edited by Adrian; 08-07-2008 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Comment from deleted post erased

08-07-2008, 11:49 AM	#38
Inkster Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arse firmly glued to Ra Posts: 1,042	I also think the female walk is over the top for many reasons. There are quite young people who play this game for one. also i think it is pretty degrading they way the female char walks to be honest. (i have seen worse in other games but i dont play them). As stated, there is not a large community of females in this game and for those that are here, i think this new walk animation is totally unnecessary. Chilko, you replied to Ladylanuna saying what she had said was degrading to your country when she did not whatsoever. Personally i think more thought should have been given in your reply or a better idea maybe would to have let Kailer Our Community Manager deal with the matter and not yourself. To finish, this is partly the reason this has happened http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...696#post480696 Way to Alienate your community NGD well done, congratulations (I dont know why I even bothered writing this as nothing will be done about it) __________________ Follow me on facebook https://www.facebook.com/lomgom/

08-07-2008, 11:58 AM	#39
Domino_ Initiate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vault 15 Posts: 147	The new animation rock's ^^ And why u call it walk like slut? To be honest models walk same .... __________________ retired

08-07-2008, 01:14 AM	#31
Kittypretty Baron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 697	I do not mind it much (and yes i am female) I realize my in game avatar isnt even close to a true representation of myself anyways, and however/whoever decides to judge me on in game appearance alone..rather than by my personality..thats their weakness not mine. either way though, i would still like the overall majority to prevail, whatever that may be, but there are more important game design flaws IMO that need to be adressed, and i would like the devs to focus on them, rather than the cosmetic and polish, till they have as stable and balanced game as possible

08-07-2008, 06:55 AM	#35
-Paradox- Apprentice Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 82	It is funny how NGD claim they are a community based game, when it is clear that alot of women and men do not like this new feature, yet they continue to defend themselves and continue to be stubborn and say they are right and we are wrong. To me that doesn't sound like community based developers but developers that tell the community what they want. NGD you have lost a lot of respect with this new update, I would advise you start reversing some of the mistakes you have put into the game.

08-07-2008, 01:19 PM	#40
ExtremeCoder Pledge Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 34	While this is a valid argument, I'm not sure it's such a big deal because: - Most people in Regnum run, it'd be a waste of time to walk. - Compared to other MMORPGs, this is nothing. - If you run all the time, no one will notice this new animation. I didn't, except that people here pointed it out.