New balancing for warriors since last update? - Page 4

NightTwix · 05-01-2007, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by c0wb0y

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ok i managed to read it

first: knights are not the slowest. mages are

but i see the problem.
When i started playing and started lvling in the wz u had NO chance to reach an archer as a warrior. They could shoot while running and ran faster backwards than we ran forwards. And that was the case for a LONG time.
I started hating Thanus and Mantis at that time. They killed u in a breeze and you had no chance to fight back.

after a while things changed. they changed the shoot-while-run thing and more important the spring skill was same for both classes!
Now a warrior was actually able to reach the archer and maybe kill him.
at least we were able to fight back.

well, after the last big spell/balance update things changed more towards archers again.
besides all the penalties for warriors, spring lasts 5 secs longer now for archers.
So we are back at a point where u have to rely on mistakes archers make.
Highly skilled archers like Thanus does not make mistakes, at least no big ones. So i can barely kill him.
I would guess in a 1on1 he will win 8 or 9 times out of 10

and thats not what i call balance.

a fight at equal lvl/skill should be 50/50. a low lvl should only kill a high lvl with LUCK and not by design.

Tyr · 05-01-2007, 04:02 PM

-Cowboy I fixed the format and some spelling for you. Other then that it is as you wrote it.-

Hello to those who set the balance in this game. I just would like to share with you what a day of training is like for a knight now. Humm you know now that we have balance hee hee right. I have been training as hard as I can for weeks, but still the same level. Why you ask or maybe you smugly say try harder.

Well I start a day at the beach I kill about 10 monsters and an elf arch shows up kills me with no fear of me killing him. I kill him what a laugh. So than I go to the cem. and kill a few ghost maybe 10 or 12 than and arch shows up and kills me. With no fear of me killing him. Than I go to the mount where I kill 10 0r 15 monsters and you guest it and archer shows up and kills me. With no fear of me again. Than I go to prozo where I kill a few snakes and ??? Yep that’s right an archer shows up and yes I die.

Lets see wasn't archers suppose to fear fighting a knight one on one. Let’s go even better I'm high level knight and I get killed by low level archers 1 on 1 does that seem right. Why can't I level because I'm to busy dieing all the time I have nowhere I can go to do this with out you guessed an archer showing up and killing me.

Balance humm looking through the eye of all history wasn't archers weaker than knights at one on one fighting in close I can see the edge go to an archer at distance but right up on ya. That’s crazy. So why don't you work on fixing this right. Barbs are for close in attacking. Let them do what they need to. [Knights are for protecting range units] Let us do our jobs to knights don't as a rule care about RP as much as protecting the range units. Guess what they don't need us they don't fear us I just go and sit who would care? Only the guys who want our rp which I give out freely it seems. I can't protect myself I can't run as you know knights are the slowest movers on the game. I can't fight back because I can't get close and even if I do some spell has me standing like a stone.

So what I want is for you to tell me and the others just what do you think we are for or should do, where do we train, and who do we fight? Do we just sit and let range units get rp or should we act like for their shakes that are trying to fight them???? Please tell me why knights are a part of this game I would hate to think this is the way it will be from now on.

I loved this game before the so called balance or as the players know it the big Joke. I await an answer to those things I ask I really would like to know what to do. Please don't let the knights fade away and only have ranged it would kill the game I love so much jokes over guys what ya say?

Tyr · 05-01-2007, 04:18 PM

Now that the post is readable I do understand your frustration with the balance but the way you are going about explaining your point is all wrong. Fine tuning the balance is not an easy thing to and I would bet we will see it get better for some class and worst for other many more times before it is completed.

What is need here is a report of the problem without the digs and smartass comments.

Znurre · 05-01-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyr

Now that the post is readable I do understand you frustration with the balance but the way you are going about explaining your point is all wrong. Fine tuning the balance is not an easy thing to and I would bet we will see it get better for some class and worst for other many more times before it is completed.

What is need here is a report of the problem without the digs and smartass comments.

I have tried to do that.
Maybe you can come up with something?

bigjim · 05-02-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scaramanga

Seriously, if i were part of NGD, i wouldn't answer to threads with ridiculous insults like this at all.

Wow, grow up. Have you ever heard of a joke.

c0wb0y · 05-04-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyr

Now that the post is readable I do understand your frustration with the balance but the way you are going about explaining your point is all wrong. Fine tuning the balance is not an easy thing to and I would bet we will see it get better for some class and worst for other many more times before it is completed.

What is need here is a report of the problem without the digs and smartass comments.

What I wrote was ment in a fun way not a dig but as a joke among friends to lightin the moment

05-01-2007, 04:02 PM	#32
Tyr Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	-Cowboy I fixed the format and some spelling for you. Other then that it is as you wrote it.- Hello to those who set the balance in this game. I just would like to share with you what a day of training is like for a knight now. Humm you know now that we have balance hee hee right. I have been training as hard as I can for weeks, but still the same level. Why you ask or maybe you smugly say try harder. Well I start a day at the beach I kill about 10 monsters and an elf arch shows up kills me with no fear of me killing him. I kill him what a laugh. So than I go to the cem. and kill a few ghost maybe 10 or 12 than and arch shows up and kills me. With no fear of me killing him. Than I go to the mount where I kill 10 0r 15 monsters and you guest it and archer shows up and kills me. With no fear of me again. Than I go to prozo where I kill a few snakes and ??? Yep that’s right an archer shows up and yes I die. Lets see wasn't archers suppose to fear fighting a knight one on one. Let’s go even better I'm high level knight and I get killed by low level archers 1 on 1 does that seem right. Why can't I level because I'm to busy dieing all the time I have nowhere I can go to do this with out you guessed an archer showing up and killing me. Balance humm looking through the eye of all history wasn't archers weaker than knights at one on one fighting in close I can see the edge go to an archer at distance but right up on ya. That’s crazy. So why don't you work on fixing this right. Barbs are for close in attacking. Let them do what they need to. [Knights are for protecting range units] Let us do our jobs to knights don't as a rule care about RP as much as protecting the range units. Guess what they don't need us they don't fear us I just go and sit who would care? Only the guys who want our rp which I give out freely it seems. I can't protect myself I can't run as you know knights are the slowest movers on the game. I can't fight back because I can't get close and even if I do some spell has me standing like a stone. So what I want is for you to tell me and the others just what do you think we are for or should do, where do we train, and who do we fight? Do we just sit and let range units get rp or should we act like for their shakes that are trying to fight them???? Please tell me why knights are a part of this game I would hate to think this is the way it will be from now on. I loved this game before the so called balance or as the players know it the big Joke. I await an answer to those things I ask I really would like to know what to do. Please don't let the knights fade away and only have ranged it would kill the game I love so much jokes over guys what ya say? __________________ Tyr - Conjurer \| Lasher - Hunter \| Eoin - Marksman \|Woden - Barbarian Lodur - Warlock \| Vayu - Knight Organized Confusion Last edited by Tyr; 05-01-2007 at 04:19 PM.

05-01-2007, 04:18 PM	#33
Tyr Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	Now that the post is readable I do understand your frustration with the balance but the way you are going about explaining your point is all wrong. Fine tuning the balance is not an easy thing to and I would bet we will see it get better for some class and worst for other many more times before it is completed. What is need here is a report of the problem without the digs and smartass comments. __________________ Tyr - Conjurer \| Lasher - Hunter \| Eoin - Marksman \|Woden - Barbarian Lodur - Warlock \| Vayu - Knight Organized Confusion Last edited by Tyr; 05-01-2007 at 07:03 PM.