Marksman damage

[Mattdoesrock]

Originally Posted by Chilko

Marksmen should provide long ranged damage dealing

Originally Posted by Chilko

They should not be killing machines from long distance.

I never understood that...

[Mikan]

Originally Posted by Revolverxxx

lets take Minamoto for an example. With his awesomely pimped out bow and dragon amulet he manages to hit an average of 400-450 normals. this is an extreme case of uber-gear. an average lvl50 marksman hits around 300-350 (with recharged arrows[5]) without without buffs from other classes. its still nothing compared to a hunter+pet combo. i personally dont have a problem with a marksmans damage, it just needs to be compensated in another area such as his range

This is honestly not an extreme case. He must've made some errors in his decisions when building his character because this is standard run of the mill damage from any level 50 Marksman on RA who has a half-decent Slow/30 bow.

The rare uber-geared Marx on RA can do 700-800 on the right targets, without DS. Fluffy Muffin, one of our old Hunters with Very good to Piercing armor (Beast Master), took a normal hit for 800 the other day. Keep in mind that is on a very piercing-resistant class...

One of my clanmembers also does similar damage to what you list, at LV41 with only Stone Token and DS rings.

I think perhaps some Horus players have some issues with understanding the damage system, how damage types work and the minimal damage buffer and how to use it to bypass armor and protections to some extent.

(Each individual damage type can't be reduced below 10% of the combined damage amount.)

Kind regards.

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by Mikan

I think perhaps some Horus players have some issues with understanding the damage system, how damage types work and the minimal damage buffer and how to use it to bypass armor and protections to some extent.

Caaaareful.. u wanna tell me on RA theres less players who dont know about that? :P

[Revolverxxx]

Originally Posted by Mikan

I think perhaps some Horus players have some issues with understanding the damage system, how damage types work and the minimal damage buffer and how to use it to bypass armor and protections to some extent.

(Each individual damage type can't be reduced below 10% of the combined damage amount.)

this intrigues me *off to do research*

but im still standing true to my numbers, i havent seen a marksman hit higher than 450-480 normals (and these are the extreme cases). but then again i am a hunter with very good piercing armour (+30% armour rating). maybe i should spend more time in RA and try to learn thier secrets

[Topogigio_BR]

Originally Posted by Mikan

This is honestly not an extreme case. He must've made some errors in his decisions when building his character because this is standard run of the mill damage from any level 50 Marksman on RA who has a half-decent Slow/30 bow.

Kind regards.

You are comparing 2 distinct worlds, in my opnion. RA has more users=more drops = more epic drops= better gear.
Horus has few users= compare that a zerg in horus has 15-25 ppl= less drops = few epics= worst gear.
To find an item for marks above 40 is not so easy in Horus, syrtis situation maybe diferent, but look all those great geared marks in this topic seens to be syrtis, but i bet this is the situation of the 2 other realms in horus, as i think is not even in other servers than RA.

[_Enio_]

Originally Posted by Mikan

The rare uber-geared Marx on RA can do 700-800 on the right targets, without DS. Fluffy Muffin, one of our old Hunters with Very good to Piercing armor (Beast Master), took a normal hit for 800 the other day. Keep in mind that is on a very piercing-resistant class...

This is not possible as noncrit without DS/DF/External buffs.

Originally Posted by thunderboad

You are comparing 2 distinct worlds, in my opnion. RA has more users=more drops = more epic drops= better gear.
Horus has few users= compare that a zerg in horus has 15-25 ppl= less drops = few epics= worst gear.
To find an item for marks above 40 is not so easy in Horus, syrtis situation maybe diferent, but look all those great geared marks in this topic seens to be syrtis, but i bet this is the situation of the 2 other realms in horus, as i think is not even in other servers than RA.

Actually on RA its way harder to get nice gear. Bossdrops are very rare and its very competitive trade there sice its just a way bigger playerbase. My RA marks with a pretty nice slow 25 does i think 320-360(edit: around 380) with Recharged 5 & specialist 4 on unbuffed targets iirc.

[Revolverxxx]

Originally Posted by _Enio_

This is not possible as noncrit without DS/DF/External buffs.
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agreed. if a marksman could hit 700-800 normals i dont think thread would exist. i dont think ive seen a crit that high either (not taking buffs into consideration.

i hit a 900 crit on a boss with my hunter once but i was extremely buffed at the time and Eve was extremely debuffed. when comparing normals its best not to compare it with extreme circumstances

[UmarilsStillHere]

Best non-spell hit Ive taken from a Marks I can remember is Vs Faith (with Frenzy 5 on, forget if Caution 3 had ran out or not) I took a 710 from 'The End' the other day, most likely he was under Onsl.

[fritsz]

Originally Posted by Mikan

This is honestly not an extreme case. He must've made some errors in his decisions when building his character because this is standard run of the mill damage from any level 50 Marksman on RA who has a half-decent Slow/30 bow.

The rare uber-geared Marx on RA can do 700-800 on the right targets, without DS. Fluffy Muffin, one of our old Hunters with Very good to Piercing armor (Beast Master), took a normal hit for 800 the other day. Keep in mind that is on a very piercing-resistant class...

One of my clanmembers also does similar damage to what you list, at LV41 with only Stone Token and DS rings.

I think perhaps some Horus players have some issues with understanding the damage system, how damage types work and the minimal damage buffer and how to use it to bypass armor and protections to some extent.

(Each individual damage type can't be reduced below 10% of the combined damage amount.)

Kind regards.

Maybe you can help us understand and tell us how a marks setup is normal in RA?

[UmarilsStillHere]

Originally Posted by Fritsossss

Maybe you can help us understand and tell us how a marks setup is normal in RA?

I would think to get that sort of damage they need outside buffs, onsl, owth, bless wep etc ...