Recent Review; A Cold Shot of (Needed) Water

[WhateverUSMC]

When I originally posted this, the link had been removed.

Granted, the reviewers probably should have spent more time in the game, but that fact doesn't invalidate their opinions; RvR is somewhat hard to find at times; it takes a long time to get to the good stuff in the game; it's only 'free to play' in theory; customer support is lacking.

These are all things that we, as players, have pointed out before, but now people are getting huffed because someone else had the audacity to point out the same flaws?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

I don't see the review as being 'biased', because in order for bias to exist, they must have been comparing it to some other better (at least to them) game. Even if they were comparing RO to WoW or something (as hard as I tried, I found no instance of this), it should be a good thing that RO is being compared to other games that have thousands of people playing it, and would serve as a good indication of where the game is, and where it needs to be, and could be, with very little changes.

My point is this; it makes no sense to get upset because someone sees a turd on the ground, everyone says it's a turd, and then, that hypothetical someone calls it a turd. You don't need to go smell other things in order to verify a turds eligibility to be a turd.

[Anyriand]

Originally Posted by WhateverUSMC

When I originally posted this, the link had been removed.

Granted, the reviewers probably should have spent more time in the game, but that fact doesn't invalidate their opinions; RvR is somewhat hard to find at times; it takes a long time to get to the good stuff in the game; it's only 'free to play' in theory; customer support is lacking.

These are all things that we, as players, have pointed out before, but now people are getting huffed because someone else had the audacity to point out the same flaws?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

I don't see the review as being 'biased', because in order for bias to exist, they must have been comparing it to some other better (at least to them) game. Even if they were comparing RO to WoW or something (as hard as I tried, I found no instance of this), it should be a good thing that RO is being compared to other games that have thousands of people playing it, and would serve as a good indication of where the game is, and where it needs to be, and could be, with very little changes.

My point is this; it makes no sense to get upset because someone sees a turd on the ground, everyone says it's a turd, and then, that hypothetical someone calls it a turd. You don't need to go smell other things in order to verify a turds eligibility to be a turd.

True we've been complaining about the same stuff for a long time, but we know what we're talking about, we've been playing for years. For someone to make a review like that only because he did not like the way he was treated is ridiculous, and yes, biased:

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias

He should at least know what he's talking about before making such comments, he should have played the game instead of making assumptions based on a lvl 3 character and absolutely no wz experience. This game is flawed in so many ways, but it is still unique in it's RvR concept, and that should have been taken into consideration in that review.

[Kyrottimus]

NGD's Complaint System



But seriously, the review was pedantic and unfounded. It's like Car and Driver magazine reviewing a new car only after seeing it in the showroom but not even revving up the engine or taking it for a spin.

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by Anyriand

True we've been complaining about the same stuff for a long time, but we know what we're talking about, we've been playing for years. For someone to make a review like that only because he did not like the way he was treated is ridiculous, and yes, biased:

http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias

He should at least know what he's talking about before making such comments, he should have played the game instead of making assumptions based on a lvl 3 character and absolutely no wz experience. This game is flawed in so many ways, but it is still unique in it's RvR concept, and that should have been taken into consideration in that review.

What do you expect? That he write a review after getting his character to 50? He wont be writing many reviews in his lifetime then.
So what is the alternative? He reviews as much as possible from a lvl 3 character, and asks people around for their opinion. Both of which he did.
He could have provided a better review if NGD provides a lvl 50 character for people who want to review their game. Some one said that these people, being a startup, weren't humble enough to merit sympathy. Was NGD humble? They acted like some mighty gaming company Goliath, who cant be bothered by this little David, despite having just one successful game to their credit (which's gotten worse in the past year).

Ok, NGD thinks that this company is not 'big enough' to merit a response to. They write their misguided critique. So why is NGD feeling threatened? If they dont give a rat's ass about this critique then they shouldn't have removed the thread and moved it to complaints. Nice PR move there NGD !

Critique

Any one can write a critique, bad or good. NGD could have averted a bad one, by providing a better response to the people who wrote it. They chose not to. Fine. You should be mature enough to deal with it.
Every business decision has a risk, you took it, you should have stood by it. But this brilliant PR move to move it to the complaints section and to remove the link did you no good. This david might have just slayed the goliath not because David was awesome, but because Goliath was stupid. Little drops of water form the mighty ocean. Every little thing counts.
Let me prove it. So as a new gamer who wants to try RO I would type, 'Regnum online mmo review' in Google brings this thread in the top 4-5 results.
This
Think of consequences before you do something, be it blance or moderating the forums. Please !
Arrogance
Humility
And finally the classic... learn from other's mistakes

[frank1216]

He, they DID give a (or more, I don't know, but at least 1) level 50 char, but he didn't use it!

[veluchami]

Yeah, I heard it was on Amun... Good luck trying out RvR on Amun !

Btw, I agree, that the quality of the review is bad. But my problem is with the moderation.

[Nysander]

Is this a "Surak, make me 50 or fear the consecuences" ? LOL

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by veluchami

Yeah, I heard it was on Amun... Good luck trying out RvR on Amun !

Btw, I agree, that the quality of the review is bad. But my problem is with the moderation.

No, it was on Ra. In which case he would've gotten a much better look of the game than if he played on Horus.

[veluchami]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

No, it was on Ra. In which case he would've gotten a much better look of the game than if he played on Horus.

Aww.. I wonder why he chose to review on lvl 3 char lol. Maybe horus people responded better on realm chat in a language he understood. Hmm..
That aside, why would NGD remove the link from the forums and move the thread? Obviously, he said it is a 'review'. Bad review or good review, it definitely was a review. Oh well since, its been reinstated, no need to do more post mortem. NGD, you did the right thing. But why the sticky? oO One of chilko's rage moments?

[Mikan]

Originally Posted by veluchami

Aww.. I wonder why he chose to review on lvl 3 char lol.

If anyone actually read what the reviewers said on their site, they received no level 50 character, checking all servers just to make sure, and only received enough Ximerin to buy a horse, which they used in the review.

I don't know if this is true or not but I sincerely doubt a whole group of guys would lie especially given NGD's track record of not doing things right even when they mean to. What I mean is, they have a habit of partially doing things, and not noticing until later.

Like I said, I don't know if that was the case here, but people need to stop raging so much over this.

No one knows for sure except NGD and the reviewers. Period.

(Surpsingly enough, I've gotten more green karma for this thread than red. It seems that there are still some people left in the forums with a sense of logic instead of just coming up with ways to rant at either NGD or MMO Sanctuary as they see fit.)

Kind regards.