move max to 58

[Nikor]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

I don't think you understand.

I think I do

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

What Shwish is saying that with the additional power and discipline points, players will have too much spells at their disposal. Setups will become less diverse and all kinds of class balance issues could arise.

No, what he said what that we'd need new spells. At least in the part I quoted, he might have said what you mean too, but elsewhere. But like I said, we wouldn't need new spell since there are no new ones accessible after level 37. And that problem with new power points can easily be avoided by

a) make the levels after 50 not give any additional power and/or discipline points
b) change the system so that you end up with as many points at level 58 (or whatever) as you do now with 50

Either way, raising the level cap would be pointless at best and eternal grinding hell at worst.

[Pizdzius]

50 is enough.

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Nikor

No, what he said what that we'd need new spells. At least in the part I quoted, he might have said what you mean too, but elsewhere. But like I said, we wouldn't need new spell since there are no new ones accessible after level 37.

Yes, but the fact that spells already stop at 37 is completely irrelevant to the point he brought up as to why we'd need more spells.

[WhateverUSMC]

I had to vote 'no'.

I still have nightmares about getting my mages to 50, and those are considered the easiest ones.

Raising the level cap just to tame a higher critter doesn't seem like a good use of time. For anyone.

[_Emin_]

Im not a 24/7 grinder, its still hard to hit 50...

[A_K_M]

Level 58? What difference would it really make? you will be screwing up the whole game becasue then the warzone would die pretty quick because all of the vets would be trying to get to 58.

And if it is going to take 70million when it only takes like 5 million to get to 50 then you may as well grind up the other 5 classes to 50. And it would take many a months to come up for more spells for all of the different trees to make lvl 58 worth it. Not even furest, who in his prime, grinded atleast 10 hours a day, and he only has like 30mil, not even half way.

If tameing those higher up pets is what you want then you obviously dont understand that hunting with pets is near pointless and they would only be tools to grind with, and since it only helps one class, balence would be all screwed up. Theres countless problems with raising it to 58...

51...would even be too high

[Hollow-Ichigo]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT 58 -.-
Make it 100
Nah 50 is enough, grinding to 58... omfg my PC will have overload of exp ^^

[Shwish]

Originally Posted by Nikor

I think I do



No, what he said what that we'd need new spells. At least in the part I quoted, he might have said what you mean too, but elsewhere. But like I said, we wouldn't need new spell since there are no new ones accessible after level 37. And that problem with new power points can easily be avoided by

a) make the levels after 50 not give any additional power and/or discipline points
b) change the system so that you end up with as many points at level 58 (or whatever) as you do now with 50

Either way, raising the level cap would be pointless at best and eternal grinding hell at worst.

Just to clarify. What I meant was that at lvl50 you're able to max 3 trees and take a fourth tree about halfway. At lvl58 you would probably be able to max 4 maybe 5 trees and have a similarly scaled amount of power points. I see that as a problem because the idea of specializing which NGD is trying to instill in us is disappearing as players would have enough discipline and power points to skill for every situation.

Do you really want to fight a hunter that has Ensnaring arrow(5), Dual Shot(5), SoTW(5), level 19 tricks and able to pop a Troll at any time he feels he has an opening. Or a barb with every lvl19 weapon skill or a Knight that can effectively tank and knarb at the same time? Or if every support conjurer had top summons running around with them.

If NGD were to raise the level cap in anyway, it would require either a new Tier11 skill in every tree or give every class a new tree (or a sub-sub class specialization tree) which in both cases requires resources and time which NGD doesn't have at the moment and result in an endless amount of class balance issues. Also the leveling system needs to be vastly improved.

Maybe for the very distant future, but not now.

Out of curiosity, why was this thread moved from "General Discussion" to "The Inn" and not "Suggestions"?