Ignis 2nd portal opening - Page 4

sobis · 03-15-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Znurre

Tell me about one invasion that happened during normal Argentinian hours on Ra.
Usually they take place around 8.00 in my mornings, that would be 4 in the night in Argentina.
Invasions are flawed, as ieti said. No matter the server.

+1
Ignis tried to invade syrtis yestarday at 00h hours Argentina and well....

Syrtis wall in danger (00:55hs)
Syrtis take back Alga(00:56hs)u_ú.

As I said, we tried but with this system....

Jippy · 03-15-2011, 05:48 PM

"Adapt and evolve to deal with it"

What if u don't give a crap? - Invasions are BORING, there boring to defend and boring to do - there needs to be better wishes before 90% of the vets will even care about them...

Znurre · 03-15-2011, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

Syrtis (on Horus) was swept pretty quickly last night, and with only slight resistence. So next time dont make it so easy.

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

Invasions are flawed because of the fact that you need at least twice the numbers of the realm you are invading in order to pull it off.
This can only be the case when the other realm have few players online for whatever reason.

Don't you think an activity in an RvR game, promoting playing when few enemies are online, is flawed?
What you are basically doing during those hours is RvE: you kill guards, break fort gates and ultimately the realm gate before you take the gems back to your portal.
As someone who plays Regnum because of the RvR, I just can't understand how that can be fun, even having been part of the invading force myself a couple of times.

Raoh · 03-15-2011, 06:00 PM

Znurre,

That question goes back to the "interest" issue, not the fact that its flawed. There is a vested "disinterest" in the RvR conflict itself. Weve seen this prior already in cases where Realm A (on Horus) was attacked, only to find members of that realm not less than 200 away grinding. The interest in the war itself is the flaw.

If NGD posted actual numbers of people that were logged on by their realm at the time an Invasion occurs (in Horus case it was 11pm EST last night) , I would guess the numbers wouldnt be nearly as low as you suggest, or perhaps it is low and the number that is there has no interest in the conflict at all. Thats a character flaw, not a game flaw. People who dont want to war , arent going to war. There are many people who play Regnum who dont desire to actually participate in the warzone itself.

Carn · 03-15-2011, 06:14 PM

But ignis, now there will be so much less grinders you can kill

King_Of_Angmar · 03-15-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

I won't whine about the time invasion happened. Congrats on the successful invasion.

However, do not say that time has nothing to do with it. If it is a time when much of a realm's population is not on then there is little that can be done to 'adapt'. It is not foul play to use those times to one's advantage, every realm does. But time DOES have a part in it, to say otherwise is ignorance.

ieti · 03-15-2011, 07:05 PM

This thread turned into flame again. As every thread like that before. Congratulations for getting bonus - Ignis really needs it, thumbs down for giving -XP.

You guys invaded 2 times grats good work, but do not think this is so great since you met zero resistance from other realms.

_Seinvan · 03-15-2011, 08:21 PM

Ignis is so cool you guys

Night invasions in general need to not happen. There isn't an easy way to solve the time-zone issue besides wait it out; since I'm sure in time people from many different timezones will be in all 3 realms. Horus will eventually become Ra, but even then night invasions are tricky to stop without upsetting a lot of people.

And ye, -XP is a shitty wish. When will new dragon wishes be available Dx

Monthser · 03-15-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by _Seinvan

Ignis is so cool you guys

Night invasions in general need to not happen. There isn't an easy way to solve the time-zone issue besides wait it out; since I'm sure in time people from many different timezones will be in all 3 realms. Horus will eventually become Ra, but even then night invasions are tricky to stop without upsetting a lot of people.

And ye, -XP is a shitty wish. When will new dragon wishes be available Dx

Hmm, Horus will never become Ra if NGD continues with this policy. In fact population is actually shrinking (look at how many top players are quitting). NGD should consider to look at Horus in a different way as Ra. Horus is a server with a small population that will not grow if their players suggestions and complaints -like in this case the invasion system and time-zone unbalance issues- are ignored.

animalartist · 03-15-2011, 09:10 PM

It was my first day back playing for some time and i enjoyed it throughly!

Thankyou iggies.

03-15-2011, 05:48 PM	#32
Jippy Initiate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Any place that has beer Posts: 179	*"Adapt and evolve to deal with it"* What if u don't give a crap? - Invasions are BORING, there boring to defend and boring to do - there needs to be better wishes before 90% of the vets will even care about them... __________________ Jippy 60 Knight Member of Team Goat

03-15-2011, 06:14 PM	#35
Carn Initiate Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 195	But ignis, now there will be so much less grinders you can kill __________________ Carnage Amongst Others Kinda retired

03-15-2011, 07:05 PM	#37
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	This thread turned into flame again. As every thread like that before. Congratulations for getting bonus - Ignis really needs it, thumbs down for giving -XP. You guys invaded 2 times grats good work, but do not think this is so great since you met zero resistance from other realms. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

03-15-2011, 08:21 PM	#38
_Seinvan Initiate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Roaming the snow Posts: 247	Ignis is so cool you guys Night invasions in general need to not happen. There isn't an easy way to solve the time-zone issue besides wait it out; since I'm sure in time people from many different timezones will be in all 3 realms. Horus will eventually become Ra, but even then night invasions are tricky to stop without upsetting a lot of people. And ye, -XP is a shitty wish. When will new dragon wishes be available Dx __________________ Meatshield, Seinvan, Sunday, Smash \ Sex Machine

03-15-2011, 06:00 PM	#34
Raoh Pledge Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: On an Island Somewhere Posts: 32	Znurre, That question goes back to the "interest" issue, not the fact that its flawed. There is a vested "disinterest" in the RvR conflict itself. Weve seen this prior already in cases where Realm A (on Horus) was attacked, only to find members of that realm not less than 200 away grinding. The interest in the war itself is the flaw. If NGD posted actual numbers of people that were logged on by their realm at the time an Invasion occurs (in Horus case it was 11pm EST last night) , I would guess the numbers wouldnt be nearly as low as you suggest, or perhaps it is low and the number that is there has no interest in the conflict at all. Thats a character flaw, not a game flaw. People who dont want to war , arent going to war. There are many people who play Regnum who dont desire to actually participate in the warzone itself.

03-15-2011, 09:10 PM	#40
animalartist Initiate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 108	It was my first day back playing for some time and i enjoyed it throughly! Thankyou iggies.