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Krungle · 09-02-2013, 04:53 PM

I suppose people see or interpret what they want to see.
bois is also correct in stating that there are three realms for the reason of 2v1, not 1v1v1. At times people, as individuals or groups, have their own reasons to aide another temporarily. This does not mean there is an 'alliance' or pre-planned grouping. Sometimes it is driven by boredom, sometimes by something as intuitive as wanting a break (like the Multi that placed a red relic in Imp the other day). What drives one realm to show up at another realm's fight is really only known by the third wheel, but again I say it is far from an 'alliance.'

I have noticed that Ignis and Syrtis have been working less together but a few weeks ago this was not the case. Ignis, especially has gained in strength in the past few weeks and Syrtis in numbers and this may have something to do with it. It might also be that more multi's have leveled up in opposing realms so they just bring on the account that is in the realm in question rather than cross-realm support.

It really does not matter in the end, however, for this game is designed with three realms to encourage some cross realm cooperation when events should make such cooperation conducive to two realms opposing the third one. This is a fluid situation and changes about as often as a politician's position on nearly any issue, including Syria (I mean, really guys!). It makes people wish others would make up their minds already, but that will never happen, not in this game, and that is one thing I love about it.

Aries, I think I know who you are. You are an exception, not the rule. There is a difference between one or two acas showing up to get in some RPs and an entire zerg-force helping out with impunity.

I was at Efe the other day and I still am confused as to what went on but I think it was boredom driven on Ignis' part because we had such problems getting the gelf gems.

Anyway, three way battles are fun and tend to end up as a kill-fest that leaves only one realm standing.

bois · 09-02-2013, 09:08 PM

No realm is innocent. Over time, every realm or certain groups within opposing realms have cooperated with each other towards a mutual benefit or at worst, disrupting the benefit of the third party.

I have seen every permutation. The situation is very fluid. Heck, it has gone so far as to see all three realms cooperating to exploit weakness in NGD's design.
Remember the fiasco with realms switching ownership of forts to get the award during a certain event? Every single realm was guilty. Note that not every single player participated.

That note is important because there is no such thing as realm alliances. There are factions within realms that may team up to their benefit. When these groups log off , the landscape may change dramatically.

What is that thing of not fighting so that PvPs can go on? That is an arrangement too.

The game is awash with fluid, informal arrangements that players decide. The last time there was anything close to an 'alliance' was when Alsius and Ignis had an informal arrangement to resist Syrtis which was dominant at the time. That usually resulted in backstabbing which is fair in war.

The point is that this alliance thing is blown out of proportion and is well within the design parameters of the game. It is more about player groups making on the spot decisions that may improve their chance of success tactically.

Aries202 · 09-03-2013, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Krungle

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My example of me not being attacked was me stating that at that point any iggie or a group of iggie could go help at a farmed goat fort and not be touched.

At one point Ignis and Alsius were planning attacks on Syrtis during this purple fever event. Just because you're not there doesn't mean Alsius doesn't do alliance. Shit I remember half my realm being bored cause Ignis would rather help Alsius and kill Syrtis than shoot it out in an all three realm death match.

Might shoot you and that fotomay dude or what ever a pm, cause you guys are high on some shit that must be way better than what the fuck NGD is on. Cause' someone can't possibly be that delusional.

bois · 09-03-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries202

Might shoot you and that fotomay dude or what ever a pm, cause you guys are high on some shit that must be way better than what the fuck NGD is on. Cause' someone can't possibly be that delusional.

Provided they are not 2 personalities housed in the same body.

Krungle · 09-08-2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bois

Provided they are not 2 personalities housed in the same body.

or triplets

Anywho, goats helped gelfs the other day, gave then the last red relic so they could invade and what did they do? Not much by what I could see.

09-02-2013, 04:53 PM	#31
Krungle Master Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 270	I suppose people see or interpret what they want to see. bois is also correct in stating that there are three realms for the reason of 2v1, not 1v1v1. At times people, as individuals or groups, have their own reasons to aide another temporarily. This does not mean there is an 'alliance' or pre-planned grouping. Sometimes it is driven by boredom, sometimes by something as intuitive as wanting a break (like the Multi that placed a red relic in Imp the other day). What drives one realm to show up at another realm's fight is really only known by the third wheel, but again I say it is far from an 'alliance.' I have noticed that Ignis and Syrtis have been working less together but a few weeks ago this was not the case. Ignis, especially has gained in strength in the past few weeks and Syrtis in numbers and this may have something to do with it. It might also be that more multi's have leveled up in opposing realms so they just bring on the account that is in the realm in question rather than cross-realm support. It really does not matter in the end, however, for this game is designed with three realms to encourage some cross realm cooperation when events should make such cooperation conducive to two realms opposing the third one. This is a fluid situation and changes about as often as a politician's position on nearly any issue, including Syria (I mean, really guys!). It makes people wish others would make up their minds already, but that will never happen, not in this game, and that is one thing I love about it. Aries, I think I know who you are. You are an exception, not the rule. There is a difference between one or two acas showing up to get in some RPs and an entire zerg-force helping out with impunity. I was at Efe the other day and I still am confused as to what went on but I think it was boredom driven on Ignis' part because we had such problems getting the gelf gems. Anyway, three way battles are fun and tend to end up as a kill-fest that leaves only one realm standing.

09-02-2013, 09:08 PM	#32
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	No realm is innocent. Over time, every realm or certain groups within opposing realms have cooperated with each other towards a mutual benefit or at worst, disrupting the benefit of the third party. I have seen every permutation. The situation is very fluid. Heck, it has gone so far as to see all three realms cooperating to exploit weakness in NGD's design. Remember the fiasco with realms switching ownership of forts to get the award during a certain event? Every single realm was guilty. Note that not every single player participated. That note is important because there is no such thing as realm alliances. There are factions within realms that may team up to their benefit. When these groups log off , the landscape may change dramatically. What is that thing of not fighting so that PvPs can go on? That is an arrangement too. The game is awash with fluid, informal arrangements that players decide. The last time there was anything close to an 'alliance' was when Alsius and Ignis had an informal arrangement to resist Syrtis which was dominant at the time. That usually resulted in backstabbing which is fair in war. The point is that this alliance thing is blown out of proportion and is well within the design parameters of the game. It is more about player groups making on the spot decisions that may improve their chance of success tactically.