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Old 02-09-2011, 12:16 AM   #41
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now i ask to the hunters.. if i just turn my back at you after trying to chase you... just dont start chasin me its as lame as a cow eating gras.
Sure, anything else ?
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:48 AM   #42
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Um= iwinbutton.. In RvR standable 1vs1 or very small group not much chance for whatever target the barb chooses.
UM charge, knock 3-4 hits dead before you can cast a spell. Yeah that isn't OP'd at all.
It doesn't prevent an ally of the knocked one to use all sorts of horrible attacks on the, now that the ten seconds of fame are over, no longer unstoppable and somewhat saner barbarian. The key to success is teamwork.

And there is no stopping you or an ally from preventing the barb to cast UM in the first place.

I totally spam burst of wind (and winter stroke) on enemy barbarians, not only warlocks. Time a BoW right, and they either realise the buffs they used before UM are wasted and turn back for cd, or they charge anyway, and get into trouble.

(I'd dizzy allied barbarians too of the game engine would let me. If I had my way, I would dizzy the World. The CD on BoW should be like 0.02s.)
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:07 PM   #43
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If anything I want to express, is the modification of UM in the last update.

yeah, UM was changed (their time) but the skills that affect not.

There are skills that greatly affect the barbaric and this is not evade (even hiding behind a tree). Especially those that last longer.

That is wrong, if they change a skill as important as UM, why not change those that affect it? isn't logical.

They forgot the great duration of Slow, Winter Stroke and other skills.


Um is instantaneous, protects against "no attack" but short and I think they forgot that.
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Old 02-09-2011, 03:31 PM   #44
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Completely the opposite imo. Easy to out last madness in 1vs1, overpowered in RvR (when used in conjunction with several other skills only).

No mage can take 4 hits from a barb. All the barbs do now is UM, knock with SC then normal u to death. By the time you get up from first knock if not dead they just knock you again. I have 3300 HP which is alot for a lock. The only hope in a 1vs1 is resist a knock.


I said in my first post 1vs1 is useless RvR is tolerable because you have the TEAM to help ya out.
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Old 02-09-2011, 03:37 PM   #45
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No mage can take 4 hits from a barb. All the barbs do now is UM, knock with SC then normal u to death. By the time you get up from first knock if not dead they just knock you again. I have 3300 HP which is alot for a lock. The only hope in a 1vs1 is resist a knock.


I said in my first post 1vs1 is useless RvR is tolerable because you have the TEAM to help ya out.
In a pvp they actually have to reach you after UM. Your only hope isn't resisting a knock, just cast slow and kite for 10 seconds. In RvR it's worse because you can be CCed by a ranged class, and raped by a UM barb while your allies can't CC him.
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:59 PM   #46
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No mage can take 4 hits from a barb.
Laziness, darkness/stealing mana... you'll be able to take more than 8.

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All the barbs do now is UM, knock with SC then normal u to death. By the time you get up from first knock if not dead they just knock you again. I have 3300 HP which is alot for a lock. The only hope in a 1vs1 is resist a knock.
Cast slow and make it perfect.
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:49 PM   #47
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New UM has exaggerated even more the strength of barbs in front of the door, because of AE spam (every 40 seconds) and beetle swarm immunity and their weakness afield, because 10 sec UM is not enough to reach the target, if he is a skilled player.

Pre patch (more or less) UM is the solution in my opinion.

And Warlocks don´t have real problems against barbs (exception: in front of the door, see above).The trick isn´t surviving a knock, but don´t let them do it Marksmen are much more annoying for warlocks (range, faster CCs).
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