Are these evades normal?

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by Katiechan

I don't care about your opinions, I will not take pity on cheaters. Bug abuse is bug abuse.
And that's all I have to say about it.

So please don't quote me or reply to me. You're trying to push your morales onto me just as much.

when you don't care about our opinion, then don't tell us yours!

and yes, bugabuse is bugabuse! Then I call all hunters who use enemy surveillance cheater! But not players who use curse, because I can claim it is not bugged. It is only called bugged because some players have the opinion it is because they made some tests. I believe more in NGD than in other players opinion, and since NGD didn't say it is bugged I can say it is not.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by asdfghs

Like Vroek said, why on earth and regnum would a warlock cast curse on a level 50 barbarian who is charging towards him if he things it does only -10% hit change? That would be suïcide.

Maybe he was low on mana, or maybe he setup his hot bar wrong? Whatever the reason you cannot claim him to be in the wrong or acting dishonorably.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Katiechan

Well, I do want to believe this, because Badhor is a good player. I hope he will answer himself.

So you take the belief that one should know better, so all should?

Again, I love how you guys generalize here and demand adherence to a strict moral standard...

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Right so you would choose to stigmatize people that don't know that they are doing wrong?

Also they have an easy claim to hold on to, which I might add you don't, and that is NGD has been silent on the issue.

But go on keep pushing you fallacious moral substandard, even though there is no bases for it.

hard to understand, but I will try to reply.

You talk about right and wrong Hell_bound. You pretend you know what is right and waht is wrong.

Yes, I stigmatize people that don't know that they are doing wrong because in my opinion they do wrong. The people I stigmatize have the opinion they do right. You see, it is all about opinions. I have the opion you are wrong on this issue here, and you most probably have the opinion I am wrong.

You are saying I have a fallacious moral substandard. That is your opinion. Who is telling you it is not your moral substandart which is fallacious?
There is no right and wrong, but you claim very often to know the truth.

[e30G]

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Also they have an easy claim to hold on to, which I might add you don't, and that is NGD has been silent on the issue.

They can use that argument if they are being called cheaters.

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

But go on keep pushing you fallacious moral substandard, even though there is no bases for it.

My answer is the same as this:

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

Honour is nothing you can get from the law, it is an attribute which others give to you, and it depends on the opinion other people are having about your actions. This is how I would define honour.

Nothing can stop a person from thinking of you as either honorable or dishonorable. It's all a matter of point of view or opinion. Whether or not you are affected by it is up to you.

I could very well quote to you what you said:

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Slice any way you want but these are the facts.

Edit:

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

You are saying I have a fallacious moral substandard. That is your opinion. Who is telling you it is not your moral substandart which is fallacious?
There is no right and wrong, but you claim very often to know the truth.

Correct. It's funny that while he accuses us of generalizing and demanding adherence to a strict moral standard he is also inadvertently doing the same thing by enforcing his.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

... There is no right and wrong, but you claim very often to know the truth.

But yet you stigmatize others? But you just stated that there is no right or wrong, hmmm?

As to me claiming that I know truth? This is what I claim - you are in error because you say one thing and then another - you cannot have it both ways.

Again you would falsely accuse one of dishonor because in your mind you think that they know using lvl 1 curse is wrong?

But again they only found this out by trial and error, or maybe by mistake.

So to claim everyone that uses cruse one as "dishonorable" is fallacious.

Then lets not also forget that NGD is silent on the issue.

[Hell_bound]

Originally Posted by Katiechan

I still don't understand how abusing bugs is not cheating, just because NGD hasn't said it is.
The definitions of the word say otherwise...

"violating accepted standards"

We need to look at this a bit closely here, because those who create the standards are NGD though their game mechanics

Now, one can also look at the community standard, however, community standard is flawed because most of the time it will not accept the mechanical standard that developers put in the game

Hence the whining...

[Pizdzius]

oh no... not hell bound situation again...

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

But yet you stigmatize others? But you just stated that there is no right or wrong, hmmm?

Yes, I am a human beeing. I have my own opion about what others do and for this I can say they are honourable or dishonourable from my point of view. What for me is honourable is for another person dishonourable. It al depends on the opinion you have.

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Again you would falsely accuse one of dishonor because in your mind you think that they know using lvl 1 curse is wrong?

when they know about the bugged spell and they still use it they did something dishonourable in my opinion. For me this action is not honourable. Or how do you define honour? What is honour for one person is maybe dishonour for another person.

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

So to claim everyone that uses cruse one as "dishonorable" is fallacious.

Not everyone, only these people who knows about the bug. I call them beeing unfair and showing now honour towards the enemy, because I think they did wrong. They maybe think they did right. So what....for me their action is still not honourable. Do you want to disallow me to have my own opinion and to judge about other people in my mind?

Originally Posted by Hell_bound

Then lets not also forget that NGD is silent on the issue.

yes, they are silent because they don't want to admit that they messed up with this:

Version: 0.9.28 (Date: 2008/2/26)
- Spell: Curse now also affects spell focus (spell hit success chance).

[tikinho]

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