the new barberian prospect

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by misaccc

@Aries
most locks rely on meteor....and soulkeep...
@sathi
get kathilda to 46 so i can spank her RAWR;D

sc is too much even in the hands of a knight...

My setup has neither meteor or sk. The last setup I used on my warlock was maxed elements, decent lvl mental and maxed necromancy but only lvl 5 vamp. And lvl 15 mana control, of course

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by BlooD

Shut up cumeri because you dont even know of what are they talking about.

Just shut up.

Do You know what I am talking about?


I just feel that bad because I play an archer. People are saying bad thinks about archer, they say they destroy teamplay, they they playing an archer is lame...everybody can play an archer....there is no skill in playing an archer

It makes me feeling like an idiot since I play an archer. And it makes me sad when people think I am lame. And there is no difference between doing lame things and beeing lame, to say "you do lame things" is just a bit nicer than saying "You are lame because you do these things"

I am all for up to balance the classes, and I never asked for more power for my own class, and I never said sotw and all the absolute chance spells are ok. As a ranged class you suffer a lot from it, as well as you can profite. Deflecting barrier and wind wall are worst enemies for a ranged class. But however, a warrior cannot see this. Also I said it like 100 times that I as a makrsman feel quite useless very often because other classes can do my job as well. Only realy unique about marks is DS, which in fact is considered to be overpowered ( I think you shoud just change cooldown/duration ratio a bit because it is to long duration and duration=cooldown).
I cannot support my mates with auras or buffs, I cannot gain a single rp with this. I have to shoot on enemies to have an impact in war. For this I suffer a lot from high evade/resist/block too, as well as I profite for sure.

But, however, people are saying archer are the bad guys, and they are lame, unfair and destroy teamplay. That makes me, who I play an archer feeling bad. Sorry if you cannot understand this.
I started this game in october last year I think (the forum join date is not when I started with Cumeri). My marksman was my very first character, and I did not choose to play an archer because I knew he is best class or whatever. I knew nothing about the game and just started with an archer because I liked the pictures most. I put many hours in leveling this character and to learn to use it in war. Then NGD changed the rules and other's call me lame because I use skills that NGD gave me.

In fact there are no lame skills, there are just moments when it is lame to use a certain skill. MoD in 1v1 against other warlock for example. Camo under sotw in front of all enemies or ambush, confuse, sotw combo if not used to run away from enemy.

But to generalize and to say: "player who are playing archers (with evasion) are not skilled and destroy teamplay" hurts a lot if you play an archer by yourself. It makes me feeling bad if people judge me from what class I play.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by misaccc

Yeah right awd...wanna try?^^

I could try
there was a time I didn't use arcania

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

But anyway, according to AWD archers destroy teamplay

I'm not the one who said that

cumeri I understand you, but, you can always go the nonlame way like znurre did, and znurre is considered one of the best barbs out there.
I'm not saying "archers are lame" I'm saying that I think some archers are lame. Today I met a very easy hunter, killed his pet twice, he sotw and camoed (he even sotwned and camoed inside my mod >_<) when he wasn't under sotw half of my spells were evaded, I tried knocking him down, beetle swarming... heh nothing I could do really except waiting for him to not do a mistake, when he sotw'ed and camoed under mod I felt helpless because the only spell I could really rely on which would have an impact on him for sure, was bugged and he abused this somehow. If he was losing, np he ran away or camoed, np. I couldn't do a thing.
I think it's lame to run away, if you pick a fight, finish it off.

[DkySven]

Originally Posted by Vroek

The only PT warriors are barbarians with spears
afraid to go toe to toe with decent warrior i presume.

Spears are great to keep range yes, but also very useful in this time of fleeing. But for base damage hits I use hammers, they are way better.

[-Edge-]

I find a lvl 5 balestra more deadly than a lvl 5 ripost.

Oh also I was on yesterday for a war (3 FPS for the win) and I was seeing alot of the final spells, Typhoon, Thunder Strike, Lighting Strike, even when they were lvl 5 they weren't really succesful, well its a good close range area stun knockdown.

[BlooD]

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

Do You know what I am talking about?.

Yeah, and thats because you need to shut up because has nothing to do but what znurre is saying.

Znurre choose to not use SC because is not fun for him. Nothing more.

Instead of choosing the easy way, he configured his barb with another setup and he finds the fun figthing with it. Instead of being another clone barb he developed his own setup and learned to fight with it. Instead of being the nameless "barb 275 who uses SC" he is znurre and his hammer.

And if you instead of talking shit about him, understanded what finding fun in the difficult means, i am sure you understanded why he considers lame SC and evasion.

Because there is a easy way to play and a difficult one and znurre doesnt want to play the easy way. But you dont understanded it at all.

Thats why you need to shut up.

[CumeriTarenes]

Originally Posted by BlooD

Instead of choosing the easy way, he configured his barb with another setup and he finds the fun figthing with it.

ah, so using blunt is not the easy way, but why is that?

Originally Posted by Vroek

I actually prefer blunt for fighting, simply because its alot easier against most classes (especialy mages, better than slashing against both marksmen and knights) and totaly superior to slashing in fort wars.

Originally Posted by BlooD

And if you instead of talking shit about him, understanded what finding fun in the difficult means, i am sure you understanded why he considers lame SC and evasion.

I don't talk shit about him, I just expressed that I feel hurt when he talks about archers who use evasion, which is lame in his opinion. Evasion is sotw as well as acrobatic, mobility or whatever is in evasion tree.

Originally Posted by BlooD

Because there is a easy way to play and a difficult one and znurre doesnt want to play the easy way. But you dont understanded it at all.

Actually using blunt is more easy, as Vroek said...and znurre kind of agreed with this.

I don't mind which is the easy way, or if there is an easy way. But I do mind when someone says, everyone who uses another setup than oneself is doing it the easy way just to express how skilled he is. In fact skill in regnum online is determinated by lag in the first line. In my opionion it is lame to say a warrior who uses spears is lame. Maybe he uses spears because of positioning lag? Ever thought about this? Emilia Nighthaven, left the game some time ago, for example used spears. Why is that? Because she had a bad connection in asia...she most probably would never hit anyone with a hammer. But yeah, she choosed the easy way, and for this she played lame when I follow your argumentation.

I think it is quite ignorant to say this. No skill is lame, no setup is lame. And calling other classes, others player lame because they use the skills they have in a fair way is just unfait towards them...and it hurts the feeling of them.

And this is why I left Valhalla clan. Nothing more, it is nothing personal and I did not talk shit about znurre. But you talk shit about me when you say I have to shut up. Remember this is a forum, you talk to other human beeings...and saying to shut up is mean, very mean.


Another example: fluffy uses a lvl 17 evasion setup. Why is that? Because he wants to proof how skilled he is because he can fight without maxed evasion? No, it is because he has no points left for evasion lvl 19. He rather have lvl 19 scouting and pets and confuse I think. And guess what: When there would be a spell like SC in blunt znurre would use it too, but as far as I know he does not like to switch weapons. That is why he does not use SC...he prefers to have mindsquasher, piercing resistance and other good skills in blunt.
Neither his setup nor another setup is lame.

Actually I cannot hear the word "lame" anymore, it makes me sick when others talk about me and other players in this way.
Sure, everybody can have is opinion, but the right to say your own opinion ends when your opinion is mean towards others.

Think about it. End of dicussion for me.

[BlooD]

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

.......

I tried to do another post explaining again what znurre means.

But it will be useless.

So cumeri if other opinions hurt you go and hide yourself in a cave 5000m below the sea level and live there.

I am sure Znurre didnt talked about no one, only what he considers not funy ("lame") and what he will not use if he were archer.

But you leaved his clan for his lame opinion so now you are free to go to your cave and live a good and peacefully live where no one will say you his opinions.

Ah yeah. I almost forget it. The most lamest class is the evasion-marksman.

[Heglin]

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

I prefer this:

switch to fast weapon, cast DS, cast serpent bite, switch to slow bow and cast lethal strike...

it is lame and no skill...only skil is who is more handy with his keybord and mouse...not who thinks best wins, who switches weapons fastes wins

But actually especially for warriors weapon switching is a real basement of their setup

I suggested some time ago to change this. Look here http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=15506

Someone has a bad memory and imo Znurres post was'nt worse than this one.

Don't have a code that only other ppl have to follow.

Back on topic: Players use what skills they want and anyone has the right to have a opinion about those skills. I won't blame players, if i think a skill is lame that's NGDs fault imo.

[DkySven]

SC is a very strong spell, only it's balanced in the slashing tree. All 3 weapon trees have good spells, slashing has disable limb, south cross, typhoon, piercing has range, ripost and lightning strike and blunt has mind squasher, jaw breaker and high base damage.

South cross is a very strong spell, yes, but so is mind squasher, only the result of this spell is less measurable. SC gives a damage output, when you're buffs are removed it's harder to see how much that did kill you. You don't know if you'll kill someone faster with hammers(base damage) or spears(getting that last hit when someone runs away). I don't see SC as ovepowered.