Missing skilled players in war. - Page 5

makarios68 · 07-04-2008, 10:17 AM

I have to say that SOW is sometimes the right spell to cast early on, particularly when facing multiple enemies.

Examples:

- When a zarkit is hitting you for 400-500 a shot. (it's silly to stand there and take that kind of dmg, when you can avoid it with SOW.)

- When facing archers, particularly ones you know who use confuse.

- When mod is being used against you.

In 1v1 encounters i rarely use it (usually only if i'm in real trouble or the opponent is an archer and he/she uses it first)...

Eli2 · 07-04-2008, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valorius

I cast SoTW in CASE you cast MoD.

And to keep you from burning off all my damn mana. Which is also quite annoying.

So you are basically saying you are using SoTW all the time.
Do you have any clue how annoying it is if your enemy has an instant invincible spell.
You have no Armor to speak of and little HP.
Even without SoTW only half of my spells hit a buffed up Hunter.

As Blood noticed: No skill required.

_dracus_ · 07-04-2008, 01:29 PM

I had 2 great moment yesterday. First was when I finished that SotW hunter with a spiritual blow that landed through his SotW. The second was killing a hunter that attacked me while I was coming back from AFK. He almost got me, but I totally finished him

makarios68 · 07-04-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eli2

So you are basically saying you are using SoTW all the time.
Do you have any clue how annoying it is if your enemy has an instant invincible spell.
You have no Armor to speak of and little HP.
Even without SoTW only half of my spells hit a buffed up Hunter.

As Blood noticed: No skill required.

I know it is suppposed to be an RvR game, but 1v1 fights are a regular feature, and i think a feature that most players would want to keep.

However, as things are i think it is true to say that the only class to beat an archer 1v1, is another archer. (There will obvious exceptions, but i would say that this is the general rule.)

I feel kinda bad for the other classes about this...

CumeriTarenes · 07-04-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makarios68

However, as things are i think it is true to say that the only class to beat an archer 1v1, is another archer. (There will obvious exceptions, but i would say that this is the general rule.)

well, this is a must be, escpecially for marksmen. They have no other skills to cast on allies. Every class has buffs/aura for allies, but archer have not (only spell on allies is stalker that hunters have). For this they have to be better in 1v1.

_dracus_ · 07-04-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CumeriTarenes

well, this is a must be, escpecially for marksmen. They have no other skills to cast on allies. Every class has buffs/aura for allies, but archer have not (only spell on allies is stalker that hunters have). For this they have to be better in 1v1.

LOL! Good joke.

Anpu · 07-04-2008, 02:12 PM

sotw is not never ending spell. it ll stop once after timer goes out. whats now duration of SotW? 20sec? there only needs less duration, other things are just fine atm according to name of spell (Son of the Wind).

Eli2 · 07-04-2008, 02:27 PM

I think the SoTW issue has already been discussed a lot, so we are beating a dead corpse.

The point i am trying to make is, when warloks were at the top of the food chain we knew which spells not to use in order to keep the imbalances on an acceptable level. And it just felt wrong to use them against weaker classes.
That way of thinking is long gone.

Anpu · 07-04-2008, 02:44 PM

once game was beta, now its not. game changed so players too.

game population is mostly spanish speaking players, you cant do much with them nor learn them of some good manners in war and such. Even in English community sometimes you cant learn all, but one group. That group, when becomes group of very respected fighters, will be example for others who would like to change their wrong style, IF tey want to change. tht affects also if they are mature and aware of it or not.

Atm, current stage of game is: gather as many as possible rps (since now all can see their rps). How many times you saw recently PvP where some pt comes and interrupts it, hungry of "free" rps, trying to finish wounded enemy?
Or how many times you come to one place, they say: PvP, you chill then and stand to watch and then tons of Alsius appear clearing whole area?
How many times you can see very rude hunter who stands at altar trying to get free rps? Today, one very very little pt, tried that.
And remember how much save camping was year before. And also check amount of old players vs new ones. Math is there simple, solution is very bad
but thats the way it is, you cant do much to change it, but at least you can still try with one group or your new clan members. group by group, clan by clan, better overall performance.

Angelwinged_Devil · 07-04-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gph

I lost a PvP against a warlock that used terror to put me on the ground ... don't know if it's stupid, it's a skill that is expensive to have, why not using it ?

because of slow casting time, high mana cost and long cooldown you might need it later

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07-04-2008, 01:29 PM	#43
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	I had 2 great moment yesterday. First was when I finished that SotW hunter with a spiritual blow that landed through his SotW. The second was killing a hunter that attacked me while I was coming back from AFK. He almost got me, but I totally finished him __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

07-04-2008, 02:12 PM	#47
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	sotw is not never ending spell. it ll stop once after timer goes out. whats now duration of SotW? 20sec? there only needs less duration, other things are just fine atm according to name of spell (Son of the Wind). __________________ Inquisition

07-04-2008, 02:44 PM	#49
Anpu Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,186	once game was beta, now its not. game changed so players too. game population is mostly spanish speaking players, you cant do much with them nor learn them of some good manners in war and such. Even in English community sometimes you cant learn all, but one group. That group, when becomes group of very respected fighters, will be example for others who would like to change their wrong style, IF tey want to change. tht affects also if they are mature and aware of it or not. Atm, current stage of game is: gather as many as possible rps (since now all can see their rps). How many times you saw recently PvP where some pt comes and interrupts it, hungry of "free" rps, trying to finish wounded enemy? Or how many times you come to one place, they say: PvP, you chill then and stand to watch and then tons of Alsius appear clearing whole area? How many times you can see very rude hunter who stands at altar trying to get free rps? Today, one very very little pt, tried that. And remember how much save camping was year before. And also check amount of old players vs new ones. Math is there simple, solution is very bad but thats the way it is, you cant do much to change it, but at least you can still try with one group or your new clan members. group by group, clan by clan, better overall performance. __________________ Inquisition

07-04-2008, 10:17 AM	#41
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	I have to say that SOW is sometimes the right spell to cast early on, particularly when facing multiple enemies. Examples: - When a zarkit is hitting you for 400-500 a shot. (it's silly to stand there and take that kind of dmg, when you can avoid it with SOW.) - When facing archers, particularly ones you know who use confuse. - When mod is being used against you. In 1v1 encounters i rarely use it (usually only if i'm in real trouble or the opponent is an archer and he/she uses it first)...

07-04-2008, 02:27 PM	#48
Eli2 Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 73	I think the SoTW issue has already been discussed a lot, so we are beating a dead corpse. The point i am trying to make is, when warloks were at the top of the food chain we knew which spells not to use in order to keep the imbalances on an acceptable level. And it just felt wrong to use them against weaker classes. That way of thinking is long gone.