Sexist Reloaded - Page 5

Pizdzius · 08-07-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeCoder

While this is a valid argument, I'm not sure it's such a big deal because:
- Most people in Regnum run, it'd be a waste of time to walk.
- Compared to other MMORPGs, this is nothing.
- If you run all the time, no one will notice this new animation. I didn't, except that people here pointed it out.

that's exactly what i've been saying all along

-Edge- · 08-07-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeCoder

- Compared to other MMORPGs, this is nothing.

In GW the game is filled with so many horny little kids that make female chars, strip, and then dance in the cities naked shaking thier boobs.

CumeriTarenes · 08-07-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chilko

I think that your comment is quite degrading for us and our culture as Argentineans.

Chilko, Ladylulana did not talk about Argentina at all nor did she meant it. If you'll know her a bit better you would have knew that.
In no way she wanted to degrade you, nor your country or culture.
As a matter of fact your post made her leaving the game and deleting her characters (I guess so). Seems like you missunderstood each other. When you are a gentlemen you'll say sorry for your speedy and not well thought response.

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Originally Posted by chilko

We just tried to make the walk more feminine, not slutty.
I don't see anything bad about a woman being feminine... do you?
Is that being sexyst? or machist?

Feminine walking and walking like you want to attract all men on world is a difference.
No normal women walks like that by nature. They do so to look sexy sometimes, but they can choose when to do so. Ingame characters cannot. Either they are walking in a sexy way or they are running.

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Originally Posted by chilko

I have recieved more requests from women asking for their mage female characters to wear shorter tunics with clevage and to make animations more feminine.

You also have received a lot of requests from women asking for their female characters a more natural walk. It looks too sexy for them and they worry about men that could be attract by it.
So what about the feature to let the user choose which animation (s)he wants to have?

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Originally Posted by chilko

I wouldn't say that Argentina is an extremely machist country, we might be more obsessed with the female image though... the truth is that most nice looking women in Argentina walk like that.

you mean they can walk like that. I doubt anyone walks like that by nature.

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Originally Posted by chilko

As a proof of the important role of women in our society we actually have a Female president (people say she is kinda cute), and she walks like that... do not insult my president!

You don't have to proof anyone about the role of women in your county. And maybe she walks like that....but she is a person that have to do so because she lives in public and walking like that brings attention and symphatie from men. She wants this symphatie because she wants their votes. Not all ingame female characters want the symphatie and attenion from male players. It sucks when you are stalkered by other players just because you choosed to play a female character.
Also I doubt your president walks like that when she is allone at home.

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Originally Posted by chilko

This is a very subjective matter... but we feel quite proud of the visual improvement this animation represents compared to the one that was in place before.

Yes, it is an improvement. But an improvement over the top. You improved it too much...that much that you hurt female players with it.

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Originally Posted by chilko

I am still listening to what people have to say on this matter.

Nice that you listen now. The very first thread about this was deleted by NGD. That's why the title is "sexist reloaded".

Eli2 · 08-07-2008, 03:24 PM

The Future of regnum ?

Signatus · 08-07-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eli2

The Future of regnum ?

lol

Lovely critic.

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chilko

I think that your comment is quite degrading for us and our culture as Argentineans.

We just tried to make the walk more feminine, not slutty.
I don't see anything bad about a woman being feminine... do you?
Is that being sexyst? or machist?

Not sure you understand the culture of the US. Here, almost ANYTHING that gets people offended is removed from TV and web sites right away with profuse apologies.

It's the whole 'politically correct' movement thing.

This is especially true for things viewed as sexist/racist (feminists in the US have a loud and powerful voice). To me it's not a huge issue because you can just run, but honestly, the walk is definitely 'over the top' slutty. If i saw a girl walking like that in a club i'd assume she was out to "Get laid."

American women just plain don't walk like this, the ones that do are viewed as sluts/looking to score. So for an American, this walk is definitely very sexually suggestive.

BTW, playing a female character i will definitely verify what the girls in this thread said, many "boys" in MMO's will make suggestive comments if they think you're a girl. They also tend to give you stuff for free too. Haha.

tak · 08-07-2008, 05:54 PM

Cheer up people, it's just a videogame.

How can you say it is degrading to women? If you don't want to walk like that in real life, don't.
All your political correctness is making me gag.

I hope you never have any more important problems in life than getting excited about the walking animation of a video game.

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 05:57 PM

Well you'll just have to forgive the girls who play regnum for not wanting to be hounded by horney teen-aged boys. For the record, i think PC is crap too.

tak · 08-07-2008, 06:02 PM

I do not condone sexual harassment, it's just that the whole issue seems to me to have been blown completely out of proportion.

I'd estimate 90% of all female chars ingame are played by males, if a woman would get harassed she could just a) /ignore or b) send a screenshot to abuse@ngd

EDIT: I'll just add this after reading what chilko said, a woman walking in a sexy way happy with her body is a good thing imo. Banning that from all our lives, be it because of personal insecurities or puritanic values is sad to me. Being harassed for it is neither the womans nor the walks fault, but the fault of the male who cannot handle it in a grownup fashion.

Before the walk even was established, the female chars had very clinging garments that showed breasts and behinds, should i now complain to NGD that women ingame should wear some kind of bourka so these details do not lead to harassment?

Valorius · 08-07-2008, 06:08 PM

The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls.

Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years? One thing women really don't like is to be leered at.

This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses.

Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.

08-07-2008, 03:24 PM	#44
Eli2 Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 73	The Future of regnum ? __________________ Regnum: It's Highly Addictive!

08-07-2008, 06:02 PM	#49
tak Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309	I do not condone sexual harassment, it's just that the whole issue seems to me to have been blown completely out of proportion. I'd estimate 90% of all female chars ingame are played by males, if a woman would get harassed she could just a) /ignore or b) send a screenshot to abuse@ngd EDIT: I'll just add this after reading what chilko said, a woman walking in a sexy way happy with her body is a good thing imo. Banning that from all our lives, be it because of personal insecurities or puritanic values is sad to me. Being harassed for it is neither the womans nor the walks fault, but the fault of the male who cannot handle it in a grownup fashion. Before the walk even was established, the female chars had very clinging garments that showed breasts and behinds, should i now complain to NGD that women ingame should wear some kind of bourka so these details do not lead to harassment? Last edited by tak; 08-07-2008 at 06:13 PM.

08-07-2008, 05:54 PM	#47
tak Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 309	Cheer up people, it's just a videogame. How can you say it is degrading to women? If you don't want to walk like that in real life, don't. All your political correctness is making me gag. I hope you never have any more important problems in life than getting excited about the walking animation of a video game.

08-07-2008, 05:57 PM	#48
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	Well you'll just have to forgive the girls who play regnum for not wanting to be hounded by horney teen-aged boys. For the record, i think PC is crap too.

08-07-2008, 06:08 PM	#50
Valorius Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,994	The people doing the loudest complaining in this thread are women though. Not boys playing girls. Women tend to over-react and get emotional about things. You may have noticed that in the females in your life over the years? One thing women really don't like is to be leered at. This new highly suggestive walk will definitely encourage teen aged boys to do what they do best- act like dumbasses. Fortunately, there is no reason to use the walk feature in almost any case.