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Old 01-29-2010, 01:31 PM   #41
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If you want to grind and not use 1 gold coin at all.... do the following

1) take off your armor
2) begin combat at max range
3) use only attack skills
4) press and hold S to walk back out of enemy range
5) conserve mana by pressing <ctrl> as soon as skill is cast
6) move on to next target
7) If you use shortbow and dual shot you can basically have infinate mana
8) work in groups with this method for fast high GRP xp.

Goodluck

p.s. Arrows and darts on other games I play no matter what level they are are 1 gold per arrow, but you cant buy or use arrows that are higher than your level
I don't play archer much but would you not still need a bow and arrows? Last time I checked the arrows still cost money and a bow wears out. Maybe you should say 'reduce your upkeep' rather than say 'not use 1 gold coin'. Also I thought this was an arrow cost discussion not a mana conservation one. I could be wrong though.

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Old 01-29-2010, 01:41 PM   #42
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Spells don't consume arrows. I'm not sure if they wear down the bow though.
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:22 PM   #43
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+all that can be +'ed

I don't have time to grind. I barely have time to play.

I ran out of arrows in the middle of a big fight at imp the other day. I only had enough dough to buy 1500 arrows, and couldn't repair.

Robbed my conj and lock again, but that's not going to work for long.

Might be nice to not have to run all the way to Birka to get the good ones too. FFS What are lvl 48 arrows doing in birka anyway?

linearguild: I think repair costs are calculated by damage done (not received) to other players or mobs.
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Old 01-29-2010, 03:47 PM   #44
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I don't play archer much but would you not still need a bow and arrows? Last time I checked the arrows still cost money and a bow wears out. Maybe you should say 'reduce your upkeep' rather than say 'not use 1 gold coin'. Also I thought this was an arrow cost discussion not a mana conservation one. I could be wrong though.

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Spells dont wear down arrows or consume the bow....
They are magical not physical, they only take mana

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Spells don't consume arrows. I'm not sure if they wear down the bow though.
You are right.. and they don't lower bow...

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People attacking me for trying to assist them... pffft

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Old 01-30-2010, 07:10 AM   #45
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i dont think they were attacking..but the bottom line is, how many people know this other than people who havent been playing a fair time? granted i have to do the same when grinding for money on my hunter (or actually grabbing a pet, which is odd since i do not normally use one)

and people shouldnt have to go thru such a tedious process to make a profit, or to save money in this game (not your fault obviously, and i know your intention was to help)

so really ngd needs to change a few key areas so everyone can grind and level, and make an income instead of barely making even, or actually losing money.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:36 PM   #46
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hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:05 AM   #47
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hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?
The constant flexing of the bow takes its toll, plus the strings wear out...I guess.

I have to repair my staff, even though I don't actually bonk anyone with it - probably needs the mana spark plug re-gapped, at least that's what the guy at the repair shop keeps telling me.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:04 AM   #48
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hmm, I noticed this little fact: when grinding I always make a point to stay out of mobs' range (I actually use some of DM's suggestion when grinding), but even though I kill them without them reaching me my bow still gets damaged :/

how'd that happen?
Tested for hours... bow only takes damage when you shoot basic shot... So when you are fighting you must be using normal shot from time to time.

If you want to prevent any use of normal shots you can remove arrows all together and use long bow shield peirce (since it is all skill based damage) and also break apart. You can still use short bow and if you are a hunter ensnare tear apart and dual shot without arrows... Dual shot and ensnare are effected by what arrows you hold, but tear apart is pure damage (also tear apart is great to use on higher level monsters)

If you are focused only on xp and killing while saving money... use a level 1 long bow and a level 1 shortbow. Start by casting break apart, switch to shortbow and cast tear apart. This will kill most monsters.

Goodluck...
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:24 PM   #49
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I agree arrow prices should be lower...this tread is still about that right?
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:25 PM   #50
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I agree arrow prices should be lower...this tread is still about that right?
Yes

This poll is still about NGD lowering the price of arrows.

1 gold coin per arrow is fine with me since we cannot use arrows that are higher than our level already.

I think this problem effects marksmen far more than it does hunters.
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