Is this PC Any good? - Page 5

Archonaut · 12-13-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by _Emin_

Hehe let's build a computer together if you know how to

Haha some day mate, some day.

Regnum_Online · 12-13-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Archonaut

Woow those parts look really nice, and not that expensive.. But if I look at the prices that's around 350 dollars together. Which is about 320 euros?

$350 is 270 euros, which if you ask me, isn't that much more considering the performance upgrade.

Aelonderiel · 12-13-2011, 11:49 PM

Computer parts cost much less in America than they do in Europe, so the parts argument is invalid

I'm too bored to search now (sorry) but I get the feeling that those, along with an unavoidable mobo and RAM (and maybe HDD and case as well) upgrade would end up costing more than 500 euros

And before someone asks: those prices are usually America only, so you can't buy at low price and ask them to ship to Europe.

Edit: Disclaimer: I don't know if newegg ships to Europe, but I assume it doesn't with those prices.

standistortion · 12-14-2011, 11:35 AM

Where are you based? Component prices are fairly level across europe from the right suppliers, someone may be able to suggest a supplier in the same country at least. 300 euro should get components for a good system, less if you use you old case and power supply, the screen is the only part that makes a complete system worth the price.

EDIT I've been using this supplier in Ireland: http://www.elara.ie/
In Paris there is a district specializing in components: http://www.rue-montgallet.com/

Psynocide · 12-14-2011, 01:08 PM

The more answers given, the more questions arise hm?
No worries but I suggest you seek out some professional advice.

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/forum.php

The regular people on this forum are quite friendly and more than happy to offer great advice, I can vouchsafe for this personally.
It's amazing how much insightful and more importantly, free information you can find on the internet.

Archonaut · 12-14-2011, 05:35 PM

Well, I'm a 100% sure now that I will first buy a new Graphical Card for this computer and then probably will need a powersupply too because mine atm is around 300W if I'm not wrong and last time I checked the good or average graphical cards need aruond 450W ? Something like that is what the salesman told me. Anyway, is there any preference I should watch? Some brands I should choose above all? Nvida Gefore for example or anything? And how do I know if the graphical card will fit in my MOBO ? Same for the power supply, how can I assure it will work for my computer?

Prolly buy them at this site as it is a local Computer Shop near:

http://www.dixons.nl/computer/compon...ufacturer=1172 - Powersupply
http://www.dynabyte.nl/computer/comp...n.html?cat=119 - Graphical Card

Aelonderiel · 12-14-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Archonaut

Well, I'm a 100% sure now that I will first buy a new Graphical Card for this computer and then probably will need a powersupply too because mine atm is around 300W if I'm not wrong and last time I checked the good or average graphical cards need aruond 450W ? Something like that is what the salesman told me. Anyway, is there any preference I should watch? Some brands I should choose above all? Nvida Gefore for example or anything? And how do I know if the graphical card will fit in my MOBO ? Same for the power supply, how can I assure it will work for my computer?

Prolly buy them at this site as it is a local Computer Shop near:

http://www.dixons.nl/computer/compon...ufacturer=1172 - Powersupply
http://www.dynabyte.nl/computer/comp...n.html?cat=119 - Graphical Card

Before you buy a GPU you need to know what kind of slot your motherboard has... If for example it's a PCI-e 4x slot then there's no sense in buying a PCI-e 16x card, even though it will fit you will only get 1/4th of the performance...

Find the model of your motherboard and google it. I'm sure windows has some kind of device manager program that can tell you, but if it comes to the worst, unscrew your case and look for the name

Archonaut · 12-14-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aelonderiel

Before you buy a GPU you need to know what kind of slot your motherboard has... If for example it's a PCI-e 4x slot then there's no sense in buying a PCI-e 16x card, even though it will fit you will only get 1/4th of the performance...

Find the model of your motherboard and google it. I'm sure windows has some kind of device manager program that can tell you, but if it comes to the worst, unscrew your case and look for the name

GPU = Graphical card

?

And I think I found the name of my MOBO wasn't that hard because I still have the name of my computer on the box:
Acer Aspire M3640
Mobo: Acer MCP73

Does this give you any more info?
Oh, and how do I know what the maximum Ram memory is in my computer? In case I would want to upgrade that, how could I find out? And if I would, would I actually notice the difference?

andres81 · 12-14-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aelonderiel

Before you buy a GPU you need to know what kind of slot your motherboard has... If for example it's a PCI-e 4x slot then there's no sense in buying a PCI-e 16x card, even though it will fit you will only get 1/4th of the performance...

This is not so strict, even a highend graphic card does not require the full bandwidth of PCI-e 16x and we are speaking here about midrange or even cheaper cards were you won't notice any difference between pluging it into a PCi-e 4x or 16x slot

My SATA-1 harddisk is also much faster than my SATA-3 harddisk because it has 10.000rpm - in most cases the connection/port is not the bottleneck...

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Originally Posted by Archonaut

GPU = Graphical card

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GPU = graphical processing unit
in other words the graphic cards processor - so it is just a part of the graphic card beside memory, connectors, fan and so on

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Originally Posted by Archonaut

Does this give you any more info?

yes

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Originally Posted by Archonaut

Oh, and how do I know what the maximum Ram memory is in my computer? In case I would want to upgrade that, how could I find out? And if I would, would I actually notice the difference?

Your system should be able to show the current RAM usage (look into the task manager in windows) - if the RAM is full and the system starts using so called virtual memory (=writing the data to your harddisk) then you should upgrade the RAM

standistortion · 12-14-2011, 08:38 PM

http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/de...M1640sp2.shtml
Could be good for a cheap update, the graphics cards you linked to would be ideal and the prices are ok. What cpu and ram do you have?

12-14-2011, 01:08 PM	#45
Psynocide Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Here & There Posts: 439	The more answers given, the more questions arise hm? No worries but I suggest you seek out some professional advice. http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/forum.php The regular people on this forum are quite friendly and more than happy to offer great advice, I can vouchsafe for this personally. It's amazing how much insightful and more importantly, free information you can find on the internet. __________________ *Psy* Dizzy thumbs, itchy fingers

12-13-2011, 11:49 PM	#43
Aelonderiel Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 84	Computer parts cost much less in America than they do in Europe, so the parts argument is invalid I'm too bored to search now (sorry) but I get the feeling that those, along with an unavoidable mobo and RAM (and maybe HDD and case as well) upgrade would end up costing more than 500 euros And before someone asks: those prices are usually America only, so you can't buy at low price and ask them to ship to Europe. Edit: Disclaimer: I don't know if newegg ships to Europe, but I assume it doesn't with those prices.

12-14-2011, 11:35 AM	#44
standistortion Master Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 438	Where are you based? Component prices are fairly level across europe from the right suppliers, someone may be able to suggest a supplier in the same country at least. 300 euro should get components for a good system, less if you use you old case and power supply, the screen is the only part that makes a complete system worth the price. EDIT I've been using this supplier in Ireland: http://www.elara.ie/ In Paris there is a district specializing in components: http://www.rue-montgallet.com/

12-14-2011, 05:35 PM	#46
Archonaut Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Morocco Posts: 286	Well, I'm a 100% sure now that I will first buy a new Graphical Card for this computer and then probably will need a powersupply too because mine atm is around 300W if I'm not wrong and last time I checked the good or average graphical cards need aruond 450W ? Something like that is what the salesman told me. Anyway, is there any preference I should watch? Some brands I should choose above all? Nvida Gefore for example or anything? And how do I know if the graphical card will fit in my MOBO ? Same for the power supply, how can I assure it will work for my computer? Prolly buy them at this site as it is a local Computer Shop near: http://www.dixons.nl/computer/compon...ufacturer=1172 - Powersupply http://www.dynabyte.nl/computer/comp...n.html?cat=119 - Graphical Card

12-14-2011, 08:38 PM	#50
standistortion Master Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 438	http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/de...M1640sp2.shtml Could be good for a cheap update, the graphics cards you linked to would be ideal and the prices are ok. What cpu and ram do you have?