[POLL] What vg_fov value you prefer

[esp_tupac]

Originally Posted by GreenAngel

In online games there shouldn't be advantages, I agree with NGD there, the way to do it is something that should be reconsiderd. That why I say: FOV should only be able for people who do not have the 1920-1080 screenresolution. Like; 800-500 (example) can have a FOV setting of 70 max. so it equals the view of someone having a screenresolution of 1920-1080. And 900-600 (also example) something like max. 65 so it equals 1920-1080 too. But no 1920-1080 resolutionscreen with a FOV of 120 or something. THIS would give an advantage.

damn i was thinking about the same thing here... I mean, character size and depth perception porportional to the screen size of your chocie is a very good suggestion that eliminates any advantage of ppl with bigger screen resolution vs. the low resolution.
and there is no need to talk about fov because it's set according to different screen. ppl with 800x600 screen would have a fov value of say 70 and ppl with 1920-1080 screen would have fov of say 45 and not allowing ppl with a big ass screen to have a big ass fov. This is exactly my issue here. having the smallest screen with this fov 45 is just unplayable.

+ 1 bro

[LucianDeathshield]

Originally Posted by esptupac

she started it

i lol'd

[ieti]

Originally Posted by GreenAngel

In online games there shouldn't be advantages, I agree with NGD there, the way to do it is something that should be reconsiderd. That why I say: FOV should only be able for people who do not have the 1920-1080 screenresolution. Like; 800-500 (example) can have a FOV setting of 70 max. so it equals the view of someone having a screenresolution of 1920-1080. And 900-600 (also example) something like max. 65 so it equals 1920-1080 too. But no 1920-1080 resolutionscreen with a FOV of 120 or something. THIS would give an advantage.

+100000000000000000

Variable vg_fov depending of screen resolution is the best option. This way everyone will be equal and no config file "hacks" will be needed. In all cases zoom needs to be adjusted to some reasonable value.

[Orimae]

Originally Posted by esptupac

you are too stupid and noobish to know this option even existed. This option was public knowledge before the update. Everybody can change it.

I knew about it before you even started playing RO? lol...did ask how it was done, never bothered with it because i didnt really need it...

Originally Posted by esptupac

Ofc you are still playing RO with the fov 45 since you start the game and you are still as noob as when you start the game, while others have been improving and looking for new ways to increase combat efficiency whether in the aspect of zoom or setup or hand techniques. Hate to break it to ya , you are still the noob conju that use mouse to click every spell and don't know how to strafe and still use backpedals while others have evloved again and again over past years to become better and better at their respective classes.

Like a few mentioned, some dont like to strafe , some dont mind that the view is 45 , so what if i use my mouse to click spells? its the way i learned, i have a big monitor, a keyboard, a mouse..and i dont like using the number keys? .How do you know i am a noob? You never war long enough to see it, also, your not im my time zone, also 90% of the time when any of Ignis see you, your off to goat OC to hunt...if you think im a noob cos i dont heal you when you do play..maybe thats because there are two conjus to the rest of the 15 strong group of players... we aint gods man......dude chill... lol

Like i said earlier... EVERYONE should have the option to change that and not have to change the game code to do it, like Lek and GA said, have an option of 75 for 800 , 70 for 900 screens etc, dont go all mental at me because i see your ´hack´ as a slight unfair advantage... im sure many conjus will tell you, of course we would all love a bigger view in most cases, conjus are one of the biggest targets in the game... i want to know whats sneaking up behind me too... but since i play at fov 45, i just rotate view and keep an eye on things that way.....


see ...

Originally Posted by ieti

+100000000000000000

Variable vg_fov depending of screen resolution is the best option. This way everyone will be equal and no config file "hacks" will be needed. In all cases zoom needs to be adjusted to some reasonable value.

[-Kalid-]

I agree with everyone and ngd too, having different fov can have advantage on other players, but they should balance it between fov and screen resolution, im using 1920x1080 and everything seems fine.. but not for people with weak PC's

[Southbound]

Originally Posted by Orimae

All im seeing here is a bunch of whining because thier unfair view advantage has been removed.....


Why the f*ck should you all be allowed to see people coming before they see you? thats fair? thats ballanced? no..its not, really, explain why its fair that you guys complaining get to see the enemies before they see you?

I honestly don´t think anyone is whining about their "advantage" been taken away. I´m pretty sure everyone, that you think is whining, would be perfectly fine with the idea of making this option public in game!

The issue is simply what makes for better gameplay (for Everyone!)
RvR, large cooperative battles with a great portion of teamwork. Knowing what is going on around you is important, but still my characters ass is taking up half the screen! (<--- exaggerated yes, but lower your screen res to 800x600 and see how ridicoulus the GUI is, before any of you gets all high and mighty about using default fov setting)

And about that: Isn´t it equally "unfair" that a person runnning 1920x1080 screen res has a wider horizon/split vision then someone using 800x600??

So what all us "whiners" are saying: Just as we have an option to change our screen res, we also want the option to change the fov value to our liking!
I don´t know when wanting to customize your settings to what feels right, became a something bad

[Ashnurazg]

Changing vg_fov is not a hack, it's just configuration - a legit feature.
I want this feature back, because I only play at 1280x960 in windowed mode (my display is 1280x1024). Users with higher resolutions now have an advantage - that's unfair.
I have nothing against a maximum, but I should be depended on the resolution.

A way to calculate is this:
sqrt(<resolution width> * <resolution height>) * <field of view>

note: sqrt means the mathematical operation "square root".

For 1920x1080 and fov 45 it is:
sqrt(2073600) * 45 = 1440 * 45 = 64800

For my resolution it is:
sqrt(1228800) * 45 = 49883

With fov 58 I have nearly the same view than with a 1920x1080 sized game window with fov 45.

PS: fov 60 was a good choose for me .

[Orimae]

Originally Posted by Southbound

I honestly don´t think anyone is whining about their "advantage" been taken away. I´m pretty sure everyone, that you think is whining, would be perfectly fine with the idea of making this option public in game!

The issue is simply what makes for better gameplay (for Everyone!)
RvR, large cooperative battles with a great portion of teamwork. Knowing what is going on around you is important, but still my characters ass is taking up half the screen! (<--- exaggerated yes, but lower your screen res to 800x600 and see how ridicoulus the GUI is, before any of you gets all high and mighty about using default fov setting)

And about that: Isn´t it equally "unfair" that a person runnning 1920x1080 screen res has a wider horizon/split vision then someone using 800x600??

So what all us "whiners" are saying: Just as we have an option to change our screen res, we also want the option to change the fov value to our liking!
I don´t know when wanting to customize your settings to what feels right, became a something bad

Ok i apologise about the whiny comment, it was actually directed at one person, who picked up on it and raged at me, also blocked me from putting another comment on his vid on youtube (youmad?) ...but the rest of you, my apologies, but, its not my fault that i can play on the higher resolution and you guys cant , wish i could buy you all a gaming PC, but thats also not possible.

I have been forced on occasion to play the 800x600 because the game crashed if i went to my normal res, but it was just smaller... could still pretty much see the same as before, i just got on with it an played, acutally didnt make much difference to my gameplay at all, sorry. ..this is my third post, and for the third time ,i wish there was an in game option to fix it for those on smaller resolutions.

[bois]

Only NGD defines what is legit and that could change at any moment and without notice. A read of the terms of service would make players aware of this.

Actually, modifying any part of the game.cfg file manually is not officially sanctioned by NGD in any way. It is allowed by simple omission or lack of enforcement. It is legit only by precedent and that could change a flash.

Anyone who says everyone has access or rather, the information and savvy to modify these settings may be a stranger to the truth. Modifying game files is what I consider a non transparent ,advanced, hard core gamer process. Notice I did not say hack. The question is, was it providing an unfair advantage to those in the know at the expense of the casual gamer ? If the answer is yes, then it should be reined in.

With all that said, NGD now has to define what it thinks is the minimum operating parameters and hardware/ software requirements for its game. Once it decides on this and publishes it , then it can proceed to make the game processes as equitable for as wide an audience as possible based on what it intends to support.

In terms of this matter, if it is unfair to players with a lower resolution then, those resolutions (within limitations) should be allowed a greater FOV to be on a level playing field with others with superior resolutions. But, only to match. This should not be modified via an obscure setting but rationalized into the game that it is automatically set depending on the resolution you choose so that you can control it natively via your mouse wheel.

I am not a fan of modifying game.cfg files and will never be. While the technologically saavy may revel in it, if your aim is to be as sporting as possible then you must see that it would be as if you are playing with a hidden rulebook that was not available to all including the unwashed masses. Maybe that is what you revel in ? Forum instructional posts and in game chats do not qualify as an instruction manual to the masses.

I always write it and I will write it again : this is a game, for entertainment. Unless you are a paid beta game tester, it's not your job. If your obsession with it drives you to operate like RO is your career, your biggest problem may not be FOV.

Bad karma switched off . Sorry for party bustin'

[esp_tupac]

Originally Posted by Southbound

I honestly don´t think anyone is whining about their "advantage" been taken away. I´m pretty sure everyone, that you think is whining, would be perfectly fine with the idea of making this option public in game!

The issue is simply what makes for better gameplay (for Everyone!)
RvR, large cooperative battles with a great portion of teamwork. Knowing what is going on around you is important, but still my characters ass is taking up half the screen! (<--- exaggerated yes, but lower your screen res to 800x600 and see how ridicoulus the GUI is, before any of you gets all high and mighty about using default fov setting)

And about that: Isn´t it equally "unfair" that a person runnning 1920x1080 screen res has a wider horizon/split vision then someone using 800x600??

So what all us "whiners" are saying: Just as we have an option to change our screen res, we also want the option to change the fov value to our liking!
I don´t know when wanting to customize your settings to what feels right, became a something bad

right fucking on bro!!!
+1000000000000 !!! :P
Really the problem with this default fov 45 is that some of us with less powerful PCs are running on 800x600 which makes things more difficult than usual in combat, while others with higher screen resolution are not affected as much from this.