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Old 05-09-2008, 01:23 AM   #51
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for thos people that think rap has no meaning to it, heres some songs that wil make you think...
fixed your links
http://youtube.com/watch?v=U5WvQrfDPQY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=awKoTDIdKrg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=noTvdpAYeHE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PqmvsPAAdIU

hm yeah these aren't gangsta rap, but try to read my post again.
rap is all about the lyrics and if the lyrics are about boobs and big cars there's really nothing to it because the music is repetitive.

GIGO, Then you are very bad at intepretating lyrics .
here's some songmeanings for tracks from the band cradle of filth, their album thornography.

Cradle of filth - dirge inferno
"dirge inferno, um its another end of the world opus, in the vein of cthulu dawn or mother of abominations. 'dirge inferno' is a nickname for the great beast that arises and wages war, during the book of revelations" basicly its amageddon "because what better way to start an ablum then with the end of the world"

Cradle of filth - tonight in flames
"Tonight In Flames concerns itself with fiery religious fanaticism stoked up by the sudden death of a loved one. The idea behind the song is that even the most ardent supporter of peace can be drawn into violent conflict if their faith is shattered beyond repair.
The title reflects the onset of spiritual darkness that pervades and eventually clouds the mind through irrevocable grief and irretrievable loss.
Without sounding too political, one can draw a parallel with the current clime of terrorism, where normally peaceful religious groups are being incensed to hatred for what is supposedly being inflicted upon their fellow religious brethren."

Cradle of filth - libertina grim
"Libertine Grimm is another gothic character who is actually an amalgam of many different women. She is sexy, erudite and possessed of an extraordinary wit, but this is counterbalanced by an unhealthy appetite for self-destruction and flights of morbid fancy, brought on by deep dark secrets, terribly chic drugs and wild, sexual abandonment.
She is a gluttonous Miss Muffet, the fairy-tale girl who ate the big bad wolf, the beauty who slept with one eye on the coming talent.
Libertine Grimm is every goth girl's coven mistress."

Cradle of filth - the byronic man
"This song pretty much does what it says on the tin. Based on the infamous poet and Libertine Lord Byron, the song is written from a first hand perspective that is not only historical but also self-analytical, musing on the individual's slide into decline and relishing fully in it's rich, unwholesome flavour.
Ville Valor from HIM was asked to contribute vocals to this song, firstly for the need for a good clean male vocal, but mainly for the necessity to portray the Byron character with someone who may well be tantamount to the modern day equivalent."

Cradle of filth - I am the thorn
"The closest thing to a title track on the album concerns itself with a livid God, who has seen the multitude of religious wars and causes given over to his many names and has sent his right hand, The Thorn, an avenging angel of death, to mete out a collective punishment, in a way to remind all of his total dominion. If the concept of an all-encompassing God is to be believed, then why should it not be also believed that his Will could turn grim and 'old testament' on the self-professed prophets who war in his name?
'I Am The Thorn' is a song about global retribution and the dire consequences that waging wars in the name of religion and territory engenders."

Cradle of filth - cemetary and sundown
"In response to Cradle's recent lull in all matters of a vampyric nature, this track is akin to a revenant anthem; A song that unites the legions of the undead, urging them to forget the covenant with mortal kind, come forth out of the shadows where they feed like jettisoned animals and rekindle the passion to muster and master the night....ruling over the humans as is their Draconian birthright.
This also feature's vocals from Sarah Jezebel Deva."

Cradle of filth - Lovesick for Mina
"In response to Cradle's recent lull in all matters of a vampyric nature, this track is akin to a revenant anthem; A song that unites the legions of the undead, urging them to forget the covenant with mortal kind, come forth out of the shadows where they feed like jettisoned animals and rekindle the passion to muster and master the night....ruling over the humans as is their Draconian birthright.
This also feature's vocals from Sarah Jezebel Deva."

Cradle of filth - Under a huntress moon
"This is a hymn to the beauty of the moon, as personified by the celestial huntress Diana. The lyrics in this song are very reminiscent of Cradle's earlier works where pagan imagery is jewelled with strong female characteristics, as is befitting of the eternal Goddess herself.
These lyrics have a very classical feel to them and it is only through their morbid cadence that the reader comes to understand the author's bewitched state of mind."

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Old 05-09-2008, 01:25 AM   #52
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yeah i was gonna do that now sorry well ty anyways
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:39 AM   #53
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Pfft, techno, thats SOOO common now-a-days
I dont belive ppl that say 'Im listening to techno', 70% of them never even heard techno, all those techo-boys listen to 'trance' and 'stupid house', teach those ignorants that
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@AWD yeah i didnt bother reading the whole thread after i saw what ya said about rap i had to react to it... and yes i dislike the other rappers that talk about nothing.... i like linkin park and thats about it for rock i also listen to some spanish songs but that wouldnt fit here,,, :P
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:14 AM   #56
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@AWD yeah i didnt bother reading the whole thread after i saw what ya said about rap i had to react to it... and yes i dislike the other rappers that talk about nothing.... i like linkin park and thats about it for rock i also listen to some spanish songs but that wouldnt fit here,,, :P
actually it's the same thing with punk music (although punk music has some kind of message mostly political) I don't like punk because if it's all in the lyrics you might as well read them instead, music is to be listened to .
Most of the "punk" which is in the media is pop/rock/punk like good charlotte (don't like them either.)

Mostly, true "punk" has some kind of political message and is pretty rebellic
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well i dont really listen to punk/metal/rock or any of those things, linkin park has some connections with rap besides i listen to the 3 rappers i posted thats about it... i'll listen to some hip-hop and R&B sometimes but yeah old songs are better then these new songs that are coming out most of these new songs that come out for any type of music arent making any sense anymore....one of the songs i listen to besides rap and rock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2IExa2A198
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:56 AM   #58
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old songs are better then these new songs that are coming out most of these new songs that come out for any type of music arent making any sense anymore....
I think it depends on where you look, I am a musician myself and thus I love music.
There are songs made to listen to and there are songs made both for listening and for understanding (with a message)
some bands such as manowar has a general message
"Our message is pretty much positive. We say that you are your own God, what you make of your life is your own choice"
now that's a good message.

another band is the 69 eyes with their lates two albums angels and devils, counterparts, pretty funny

then there's mortal love, if you put together the title of all albums you get a sentence.
All the beauty I have lost forever will be gone

and you can do the same of their last album with the track titles:
I Make The Mistake Of Keeping The Fire Down While Everything Dies My Shadow Self In The End Decides To Choke You Now So I Betray The Mission Still It Has Only Just Begun As We Can Not Be One Forever Will Be Gone
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:59 AM   #59
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i dont listen to ur type of music but compare those songs you listed to the old ones you hear that have a message
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:19 AM   #60
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songs with a message - real message - are good songs.
meaningles songs - stupid songs.
and electronic music has little or no messages in them, so i dislike it.

and here i dont count classical masterpieces.
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