In response to Moderators hanging out in chat for funzies. - Page 6

Henri_Freundlich · 02-25-2010, 07:01 AM

There will always be ignorants and hard-core "fans" who cheer on and agree with almost every single decision an individual, company or the Government, makes.

Such people are simply unable to accept any sort of criticism, or even legit concerns that the public makes, using connotations such as 'troll' and 'throw out the window' to discourage the masses from reading and understanding the criticism and/or concern(s) at hand.

In this case, Vythica is trying to point out that some 'moderator' who doesn't understand the surroundings (and doesn't even bother understanding) acted prematurely (and childish, like all the random IRC kicks) on a minor matter which probably didn't need any 'moderation' at all.

Poor decision making is the key issue, here. Individuals who just "go with the flow" because they're socially incapable of making the right decisions, the right choices for *ALL* the people involved. Or perhaps they are capable, but chooses to ride solely on popularity and fame in a fictitious fishbowl environment.

'Nuff said.

There may be howlers trying to nibble at my heels because of this post, but meh, I don't care. I'm rather not fond of people who can't think rationally on simple issues, like this one.

_dracus_ · 02-25-2010, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vythica

FFS I'm not trolling. I have a legitimate gripe and I'm just trying to get it out there, it's everyone else who's trolling!

Stop making such a fuss about your "legitimate" trolling.

Vythica · 02-25-2010, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

FFS shut the fuck up.

I'll wait to see how long it takes before THIS is acted on. I bet if it were DB calling someone a noob it would be down already.

Altara · 02-25-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by _dracus_

Stop making such a fuss about your "legitimate" trolling.

My my, Its true Vyth has a reputation for trolling, But I believe if someone is making a point, saying something that they believe IS wrong in the game, and needs addressing, it is very rude to call them a troll and disregard what they are saying.
If Vythica thinks this is an issue that needs to be resolved, then dont say things like "OMFG this gui iz teh tr0ll, dunt lizen !!!"
or at least thats how it is being translated in my mind.

But, as I said before, I believe many of you are being over sensitive

Gawyn_Trakkand · 02-25-2010, 09:03 AM

*trying to control fits of laughter* ok ok ok... you're having a rant about Moderators being too "big brotherish" guess what... they kinda are the big brothers of our community.

If you dont want your chat moderated then talk on IRC exclusively if you have a problem with how the game is run and how Moderaters do their job (btw Dky has been by far the most helpful moderator Horus has ever seen, No offence Kailer, Surak we know you're busy) then quit... oh wait you already have.

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Originally Posted by Vythica

just because I've left doesn't mean that I can't still voice concerns about a game that I've invested quite heavily in.

Most of us have "invested heavily." by which you mean you bought Premium content. Holy crap someone give the man shares in NGD before we have a law suit on our hands!

Fact is Mods and Devs can do what they want and Moderate and develop in any way that they want. Nothing gives you the right to tell them how to do their job, If Dky wants to hang out on his Mod char or if any other Mod, Dev wants to do the same then there is nothing you can do about it. If you (or anyone else for that matter) have a problem with it then just.... oh yeah you already did that didnt you.

Dky If you are still reading this thread then do us all a favour. There is NO "legitamate" reasons for this to still be open. Close this thread and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD what does it take for a User who does nothing but troll, put down other users and mods to get permabanned.

[EDIT: in the 10 mins this post has been up I've recieved 2 lots of green karma. shows people agree]

Myxir · 02-25-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawyn_Trakkand

Dky If you are still reading this thread then do us all a favour. There is NO "legitamate" reasons for this to still be open. Close this thread and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD what does it take for a User who does nothing but troll, put down other users and mods to get permabanned.

I agree to you. If I was moderator there would not even be a second page.
I moderate the community forum in Germany too and I know behaviours like the one of Vythica quite good. And most of the time it's because people are jealous of moderators administrative powers.
He says we need no moderators and that Dky does his job bad. Okay, the forum wouldn't be much worse without Dky but he keeps it a bit cleaner. Troll threads get closed. NGD has no time for it, understandable somehow.
Dky does a great job, you don't know what's behind doing this job. It's not just "hey, be careful I have big big 1337 mod powerz" which most of the people seem to think.

Angel_de_Combate · 02-25-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gawyn_Trakkand

*trying to control fits of laughter* ok ok ok... you're having a rant about Moderators being too "big brotherish" guess what... they kinda are the big brothers of our community.

If you dont want your chat moderated then talk on IRC exclusively if you have a problem with how the game is run and how Moderaters do their job (btw Dky has been by far the most helpful moderator Horus has ever seen, No offence Kailer, Surak we know you're busy) then quit... oh wait you already have.

Most of us have "invested heavily." by which you mean you bought Premium content. Holy crap someone give the man shares in NGD before we have a law suit on our hands!

Fact is Mods and Devs can do what they want and Moderate and develop in any way that they want. Nothing gives you the right to tell them how to do their job, If Dky wants to hang out on his Mod char or if any other Mod, Dev wants to do the same then there is nothing you can do about it. If you (or anyone else for that matter) have a problem with it then just.... oh yeah you already did that didnt you.

Dky If you are still reading this thread then do us all a favour. There is NO "legitamate" reasons for this to still be open. Close this thread and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD what does it take for a User who does nothing but troll, put down other users and mods to get permabanned.

[EDIT: in the 10 mins this post has been up I've recieved 2 lots of green karma. shows people agree]

+1 hun

Yes please close the thread, why it hasn't already is beyond me

Dupa_z_Zasady · 02-25-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vythica

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Dude, give up. You just provoked this self-adoration circle. They'll support each other no matter what stupid one of them would do or say. They think they are community and everybody else should only listen and accept. You are not going to win with them...

DkySven · 02-25-2010, 09:44 AM

Vythica, you are now cherrypicking facts. You completely ignore the actions I took against the people harassing Dark Barbarian. However, those people behaved better lately. Dark Barbarian kept being rude to other users, kept spamming me with requests to help him with grinding or make his hunter level 50 and spammed the realm chat with requests to be kicked. I didn't simply mute or kicked him for just saying 'noob' once.

Also, I left this thread open so you could bring your points, but they are rather not constructive. You can mail your concerns to community@ngdstudios.com.ar

02-25-2010, 09:44 AM	#59
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Vythica, you are now cherrypicking facts. You completely ignore the actions I took against the people harassing Dark Barbarian. However, those people behaved better lately. Dark Barbarian kept being rude to other users, kept spamming me with requests to help him with grinding or make his hunter level 50 and spammed the realm chat with requests to be kicked. I didn't simply mute or kicked him for just saying 'noob' once. Also, I left this thread open so you could bring your points, but they are rather not constructive. You can mail your concerns to community@ngdstudios.com.ar __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

02-25-2010, 07:01 AM	#51
Henri_Freundlich Pledge Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 35	There will always be ignorants and hard-core "fans" who cheer on and agree with almost every single decision an individual, company or the Government, makes. Such people are simply unable to accept any sort of criticism, or even legit concerns that the public makes, using connotations such as 'troll' and 'throw out the window' to discourage the masses from reading and understanding the criticism and/or concern(s) at hand. In this case, Vythica is trying to point out that some 'moderator' who doesn't understand the surroundings (and doesn't even bother understanding) acted prematurely (and childish, like all the random IRC kicks) on a minor matter which probably didn't need any 'moderation' at all. Poor decision making is the key issue, here. Individuals who just "go with the flow" because they're socially incapable of making the right decisions, the right choices for ALL the people involved. Or perhaps they are capable, but chooses to ride solely on popularity and fame in a fictitious fishbowl environment. 'Nuff said. There may be howlers trying to nibble at my heels because of this post, but meh, I don't care. I'm rather not fond of people who can't think rationally on simple issues, like this one.