camping save?!

[Eyfura]

That is bullshit "only" alsius get kicked for save camping. I have seen syrtis getting kicked too for same reason, on pretty much same situation (gate safe). Nothing to complain about alsius having disadvantage.

This reminds me of the latest save system, when saves were tied to each fort. Every day someone tried to save camp us but yet people didn't start such cry about it. Those saves sucked tho.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted by Eyfura

That is bullshit "only" alsius get kicked for save camping. I have seen syrtis getting kicked too for same reason, on pretty much same situation (gate safe). Nothing to complain about alsius having disadvantage.

I have seen flying cows, but I can't tell you when and where.

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Slartibartfast / Exorcist

[Quincebo]

Originally Posted by edenkirin

I have seen flying cows, but I can't tell you when and where.

Guess your trying to be funny?

Eyfu just pointed out that not only alsius gets kicked for save camping

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted by Quincebo

Guess your trying to be funny?

Eyfu just pointed out that not only alsius gets kicked for save camping

I would like to know when and were exactly gelfs were kicked for save camping. Some imaginary "gelfs are kicked too" doesn't mean a thing.

And most important - why were you (let's say it's true) kicked for save camping when Frosk cleary stated that save camping is quite legit situation?

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Slartibartfast / Exorcist

[bois]

If they move all the Castle saves and put guards , that would be the simplest solution and the end of the issue. I suggest they do just that.

Leaving it as it causes problems not only on a community level but, also leads to issues of prejudice, allegations of realm favouritism by NGD/GS staff and administrative headaches in terms of GM policing and randomly enforced nebulous rules.

There are other ways to remedy the issue , but for the sake of haste, The above solution is the quickest and simplest.
Maybe the community should be offering up alternative locations for those saves at this point rather than "he did ,she did" useless arguments.

In that vein , I would suggest moving the save to X4117 , Z3101 which is behind and above the NPC Sigfrid. Modify the terrain a little to give a mesa type formation so people don't rez and instantly take fall damage. If required, move Sigfrid from its current location.

[Eyfura]

Originally Posted by edenkirin

I would like to know when and were exactly gelfs were kicked for save camping. Some imaginary "gelfs are kicked too" doesn't mean a thing.

And most important - why were you (let's say it's true) kicked for save camping when Frosk cleary stated that save camping is quite legit situation?

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Slartibartfast / Exorcist

I am not saying names who got kicked, but it happened at shaana save, around 2 weeks ago. Does not matter for me anyway do you believe that or not.

Second, because it seems NGD and gamesamba have different visions about some things. Save camping is just one example. On horus we were pretty free without rules and raven had rules. It seems most of the "rules" now on Haven are adopted from Raven.
I am still waiting for official announcement about rules(list?) - what is accepted and what is not. Something that apply to both NGD and gamesamba users.
I don't even know is that save camping rule valid anymore since server merge as example. They never asked me to accept such rule, or I guess I have to read again the user agreement.

[Raoh]

So basically , Eyfura what your saying is that Horus was likened to Somalia (a country without any semblence of rule or law) and that Raven was a bit more like Monarchist England (rules dictated by a higher authority without the expressed input from its citizens).

Im not sure which of those is actually better than the other. Rules have benefits, and No Rules has benefits too, it just seems less logical that the latter is any better than the former.

As far as EULAs go, well, not that anyone reads them anymore, but I think there are one or two out there (the humor of MIT License ridden unix geeks) that suggest breaking the EULA means for you to pass the sacrifice of bread on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity, upon your breaking of said EULA.

[Tamui]

Originally Posted by Raoh

So basically , Eyfura what your saying is that Horus was likened to Somalia (a country without any semblence of rule or law) and that Raven was a bit more like Monarchist England (rules dictated by a higher authority without the expressed input from its citizens).

Im not sure which of those is actually better than the other. Rules have benefits, and No Rules has benefits too, it just seems less logical that the latter is any better than the former.

As far as EULAs go, well, not that anyone reads them anymore, but I think there are one or two out there (the humor of MIT License ridden unix geeks) that suggest breaking the EULA means for you to pass the sacrifice of bread on the Mountain of Despair beyond the River of Fire guarded by the Dragons of Eternity, upon your breaking of said EULA.

dat sarcasm
Horus wasn't up-tighted as it is now. Last time I heard is that if you attack a save you'll get banned. Not camping it. I don't know anymore which are the correct rules or not but +
I'd like some declaration

[Quincebo]

We have been asking for a decent rule list for years.
Same as the discussion we had some time ago about protecting realm gems in central save....or hiding a realm gem on a place were it cannot be taken

[pauluzz]

Originally Posted by Frosk

Hello everyone,

Usually, camping a particular spot means killing enemies without them having any chance to fight back, and/or respawn elsewhere, which derives in getting killed over and over.

On our saves, this is not the case, since when the realm is safe, it lets you respawn at the Realm Gate.

Frosk, having said this, do you approve Gamesamba to kick players near save/camping save?

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@ startiblah, calm down man.. I got kicked too. Was just trying to secure the road from shana to samal so that my realm mates could pass.

Its pretty frustrating that pigs could pew pew and laugh their ass off knowing I can't cross that line..