Merge/Transfers Ra>Haven - Page 7

Hollow-Ichigo · 05-30-2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zarakaye

......

Its been more than a year since something like that has happened on haven, it wont ever happen again. Infact I have a screenshot of 60 ignis being online at one point, rip.

hellscraem · 05-30-2016, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarakaye

You will never see this on Havenhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/or...1464561351.png
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1464561351.png
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1464561346.png http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/or...1464561346.png
On Ra that is so fun

damn that looks really fun 100 times more fun then haven

Elva Hunter · 05-30-2016, 02:33 AM

I never was from RA. Never was from Piranha, or the sick Horus. when i started on this game, 5-6 years ago, my server had no population at all (Raven), but i confess you, that even as a new player coming from a very very knowed mmo (L2) and used to see "loads" of players online, i did not miss the "numbers". I knew that the server to which i was sent had a low population of players in general, but the game never allowed me to feel "stuck" in my evolution in the game, due the low amount of population.

Quite the contrary,....It was so much fun to me being a lvl 24-25 hunter and already having to survive in MOB spawns in which players lvl 30 + were dying. Having the emotion and the feeling of arrive in Fisgael, and see the guards, my master seamus, ancalimon...thalos, and everyone, dead because we were beiing invaded, and have to take care because inside the realm still would last enemies hidden, God....it was so fun! ahah

And we had experience booster's...and sometimes the SGM noobed in the drop rate of drop booster during the late night, like at 2 am, haha and the few players online could enjoy a very epic drop items in each mob killed, haaha unforgettable!

we lacked of space in the bank to save so many items ahaha lmao, and then after 15 minutes he sent a mensage in the server with a face of "damn you lucky mofos have enjoyed my mistake"

and fix the booster.

all those things...find the GM, and having to kill the enemy who was going to same place as you. The possibility of every morning call 1 or 2 friends and go in swamp, efe/shana/imp beach, and the Orc Camp searching for people to killl...and damn it was so hard to find them!! due the low population...but we still had so much fun, enjoying the map etc.

All those things...i tell you NGD, and the community, managed to keep this LineAgeII Player in a game with so much inferior numbers and graphics, but i am not giving a fuck to graphics, and neither to numbers....
What i had in RO was one thing really hard to find in the MMOs now days...which is be listened....feel that the GM is not a "God" with the finger itching to ban you; Or that in every word want to make you know that he is the GM, the "God", who only speak with the "select" group of his realm friends who also think that are semi Gods.

In my times on Raven the SGMs was like me...you, and everyone else....a Common player, but giant, with super powers, but always ready to help and have fun with you, and even ready to go to arena with you as some already did with me, for fun!

This...I never forget...I never forget the people, i never forget those who contributed and still contribute to make this game good and enjoyable and also to make my hard path here, a bit better.

But the problem is that for no reason....like in a movie in which the kingdom is good and a calm place...but then....the King die, and the kingdoom start to fall apart under a bad leadership....RO started to change....

And in my case, this began when in our small server we started to have news of a fusion which was coming.....
A fusion with a "feared" server, from "feared" players, called "Horus". I confess, the own SGM from Raven sent chat to me and to some others players (the active ones) to ask for the community what was our oppinion...

I was still too unexperienced in the game, but already was a PVP addicted and had just won Immune in the tournament...when i listened that horus had good players in thought that it coud be fun to have enemies of "such quality" to face in our server, beyond immune.

But it was a mistake....from me, and from the others players who thought that it could be a good thing for us.

Because when the merge finally happened... (after hours waiting the download finish) i found out a mess in the commerce....in syrtis chat.....and some people screaming and using loads of "!!!!"" and others "go there!" "do that!" and i saw my old clan (i was from other clan) members so submissive for those "foreigners". my own friends were acting like if were "slaves" or inferior", than those new players in our server.

And then our rustic and peaceful little world began to change...

We started to see the word "multi realming" so often, as it never was seen before in our lifes showing up in the chat. We started to see players teleporting....and showing up 50 m ahead of you.....and then do it again..again, and again.

And we discovered that there had an very, very old "Elite" group of players, which seemed to be very close of some NGD persons....Indeed seemed to rival the influence of our own SGM's. players who was used to say "the last word" as soon had a problem with other player and that not even our own SGMs could no nothing....because the player who said the last word was in touch with someone "stronger".

Things/abuses like those, started to happen....things which we never seen before....
Players transfering items from a realm to other supposedly using GMs accounts (and you community, know the name of the player(s) who was involved in that).

And to add with all those new "changes"....in our little world called Raven....
the invasion System.....the WM Quests.....were changed.

Those new players seemed to only enjoy RvR, and hate the PvP...and then, the official anual event of PvP had to be canceled, because some players even conspired to invade there and attack everyone/create a mess, in a how that was impossible for the own SGM's take control of the situation (and you community know players who was involved on that).

Now the WM quests only could be completed in fights at forts...even with our server having more numbers.....the players were forced to play and evolve in a restricted place....there only had 1 way now for you evolve....and this way was in a fort. (and here....here is one of the biggest mistakes of the game)

The game is of RvR, but you cant compel the players to only evolve in this way.

And the invasion system also was changed....

I admit...was fvery hard to break the iron wall!!! But.....It were so fun!

The emotion of see the iron breaking...and then when your party die inside the "cage" it regen again...ahahah what a f. hard thing

but damn...so much fun!

Now...since the invasion system changed (and no one can say here that it is lie) since the change...RO does not have a stable system of invasions...where fix above fix, problems above problems...and so on....

Funny is that to make those "changes" the SGM's did not consulted the online players, as the previous SGMs was used to do....
Send a chat to every single active player and ask them: "tell me, what do you think about that".
This did not happened....because our own SGM's were gone....

Simple things like this (send a pm and ask the player opinion)....but that makes such a difference! and could avoid many of the problems which we have today.

And now i see the movie again.....

Some Horus players, maybe the same ones who once, contributed for many of those "changes" that happened in the game....Asking to move to RA. The same "english" "community".

But this time....i am no longer a lvl 24 Hunter, who did not knew not even a word of english, full of energy but without a forum acc to say what I think about it.

Now days i have experience to say and to see before happen...that some of the "changes" supported by some players here (old dinosaurs), only benefit them selves....and then, after they have their fun and rage quit, they just "leave it alone".

I think that fuse Haven with Ra is a thing that may can work....maybe.....
but this is a measure that only will help the NGD to get some oxygen to breathe and work to fix the real problem of the game.

Which is the own conception of "what you want the players to do to evolve". If you keep restricting the players to do only 1 thing.....sooner or later the players will get bored. (that's the reason we don't play tetris anymore) and so many others games.

In other hand, work to make the SGMs and GCs as much possible impersonal, and impersonal don't mean "not even talk with the players" quite the contrary, a SGM and GC is there to do exact that, but!....Treating even his own mother (if she play) in same way as he treat the rest of the players.

Beyond that, there have alot of measures that should be taken....some of them, already said here by others members of this community...

But a common point stands.....Which is...something must be done

Kind Regards,

Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis

Hayir · 05-30-2016, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarakaye

You will never see this on Havenhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/or...1464561351.png
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1464561351.png
http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1464561346.png http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/or...1464561346.png
On Ra that is so fun

links are broken, i wanna see too.

Vadhir · 05-30-2016, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elva Hunter

... when i started on this game, 5-6 years ago...

If I'm not mistaken, Raven started on April, 2011. We moved from Alsius Ra to Alsius Raven on May 2011 due to the low population of the server. Our PC was worst than crap and could not manage the overpopulation that Ra used to have. Anyhow, been that few I can say we knew 98% of all players and I cannot really remember you :d Do not get me wrong, I do know who your hunter is, I'm just saying I do not recall watching you around five years ago... Maybe four, but definately not five

Anyhow, I agree with you in most cases. When Raven was alive, it was all different. Few people, yes, but quite fun to play. As you mentioned, GM were like any other player (Serpie was the one we liked the most eventhough he was the first one leaving). But... perhaps it was because Raven was managed by Game Samba, not NGD. Different companies, different thoughts... If NGD could do a little bit of what GameSamba used to do, Haven players might get a little "happier"

Kind regards

Elva Hunter · 05-30-2016, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilith

If I'm not mistaken, Raven started on April, 2011. We moved from Alsius Ra to Alsius Raven on May 2011 due to the low population of the server. Our PC was worst than crap and could not manage the overpopulation that Ra used to have. Anyhow, been that few I can say we knew 98% of all players and I cannot really remember you :d Do not get me wrong, I do know who your hunter is, I'm just saying I do not recall watching you around five years ago...

Not a problem ^^
but yes, im playing around 5 years.
When the people from RA moved to Raven we started to get invaded every night due the disbalance of pop

I was already lvl 60 when this happened I think.

I only left the inner Realm after hit lvl 43-44 because I did spent a good amount of time training in arena before go to wz, before this level I think Ii only went to wz 1 or 2 times in the company of the clan members when they requested to help in something; Because at this time we only had 3 hunters active in the realm: Me, my clan leader, and another guy which stoped to play.

But after leave the inner realm and go to wz I grinded really fast. The same players going back to syrtis Orc Camp to try kill me, and failing on their mission, over and over, gave me loads of extra exp ^^ ahaha
specially during the realm boosters. And I barely needed to sit and rest hp like the others grinders, i knew how to control the distancy, already very decently
There had some ignis which was funny play against them

May i ask what is/was your name in alsius Raven?

Kind Regards,

Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis

TheBarbarianAlsius · 05-30-2016, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elva Hunter

May i ask what is/was your name in alsius Raven?

He is Demuner

Horus is cursed every server who fused with him is destiny to die , Raven was amazing

ieti · 05-30-2016, 04:33 PM

Wrong - Horus itself was sooo amazing!

hellscraem · 05-30-2016, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBarbarianAlsius

He is Demuner

Horus is cursed every server who fused with him is destiny to die , Raven was amazing

lol horus players would say other wise raven killed horus

horus rip

Pery3000 · 05-30-2016, 05:05 PM

Game Samba had good GMS until later we found out that most were corrupt ones. I also didn't like the offensive language crap they would always warn you about.

HOWEVER, the events they had were always fun.

05-30-2016, 02:33 AM	#63
Elva Hunter Initiate Join Date: May 2014 Location: Brazil Posts: 160	I never was from RA. Never was from Piranha, or the sick Horus. when i started on this game, 5-6 years ago, my server had no population at all (Raven), but i confess you, that even as a new player coming from a very very knowed mmo (L2) and used to see "loads" of players online, i did not miss the "numbers". I knew that the server to which i was sent had a low population of players in general, but the game never allowed me to feel "stuck" in my evolution in the game, due the low amount of population. Quite the contrary,....It was so much fun to me being a lvl 24-25 hunter and already having to survive in MOB spawns in which players lvl 30 + were dying. Having the emotion and the feeling of arrive in Fisgael, and see the guards, my master seamus, ancalimon...thalos, and everyone, dead because we were beiing invaded, and have to take care because inside the realm still would last enemies hidden, God....it was so fun! ahah And we had experience booster's...and sometimes the SGM noobed in the drop rate of drop booster during the late night, like at 2 am, haha and the few players online could enjoy a very epic drop items in each mob killed, haaha unforgettable! we lacked of space in the bank to save so many items ahaha lmao, and then after 15 minutes he sent a mensage in the server with a face of "damn you lucky mofos have enjoyed my mistake" and fix the booster. all those things...find the GM, and having to kill the enemy who was going to same place as you. The possibility of every morning call 1 or 2 friends and go in swamp, efe/shana/imp beach, and the Orc Camp searching for people to killl...and damn it was so hard to find them!! due the low population...but we still had so much fun, enjoying the map etc. All those things...i tell you NGD, and the community, managed to keep this LineAgeII Player in a game with so much inferior numbers and graphics, but i am not giving a fuck to graphics, and neither to numbers.... What i had in RO was one thing really hard to find in the MMOs now days...which is be listened....feel that the GM is not a "God" with the finger itching to ban you; Or that in every word want to make you know that he is the GM, the "God", who only speak with the "select" group of his realm friends who also think that are semi Gods. In my times on Raven the SGMs was like me...you, and everyone else....a Common player, but giant, with super powers, but always ready to help and have fun with you, and even ready to go to arena with you as some already did with me, for fun! This...I never forget...I never forget the people, i never forget those who contributed and still contribute to make this game good and enjoyable and also to make my hard path here, a bit better. But the problem is that for no reason....like in a movie in which the kingdom is good and a calm place...but then....the King die, and the kingdoom start to fall apart under a bad leadership....RO started to change.... And in my case, this began when in our small server we started to have news of a fusion which was coming..... A fusion with a "feared" server, from "feared" players, called "Horus". I confess, the own SGM from Raven sent chat to me and to some others players (the active ones) to ask for the community what was our oppinion... I was still too unexperienced in the game, but already was a PVP addicted and had just won Immune in the tournament...when i listened that horus had good players in thought that it coud be fun to have enemies of "such quality" to face in our server, beyond immune. But it was a mistake....from me, and from the others players who thought that it could be a good thing for us. Because when the merge finally happened... (after hours waiting the download finish) i found out a mess in the commerce....in syrtis chat.....and some people screaming and using loads of "!!!!"" and others "go there!" "do that!" and i saw my old clan (i was from other clan) members so submissive for those "foreigners". my own friends were acting like if were "slaves" or inferior", than those new players in our server. And then our rustic and peaceful little world began to change... We started to see the word "multi realming" so often, as it never was seen before in our lifes showing up in the chat. We started to see players teleporting....and showing up 50 m ahead of you.....and then do it again..again, and again. And we discovered that there had an very, very old "Elite" group of players, which seemed to be very close of some NGD persons....Indeed seemed to rival the influence of our own SGM's. players who was used to say "the last word" as soon had a problem with other player and that not even our own SGMs could no nothing....because the player who said the last word was in touch with someone "stronger". Things/abuses like those, started to happen....things which we never seen before.... Players transfering items from a realm to other supposedly using GMs accounts (and you community, know the name of the player(s) who was involved in that). And to add with all those new "changes"....in our little world called Raven.... the invasion System.....the WM Quests.....were changed. Those new players seemed to only enjoy RvR, and hate the PvP...and then, the official anual event of PvP had to be canceled, because some players even conspired to invade there and attack everyone/create a mess, in a how that was impossible for the own SGM's take control of the situation (and you community know players who was involved on that). Now the WM quests only could be completed in fights at forts...even with our server having more numbers.....the players were forced to play and evolve in a restricted place....there only had 1 way now for you evolve....and this way was in a fort. (and here....here is one of the biggest mistakes of the game) The game is of RvR, but you cant compel the players to only evolve in this way. And the invasion system also was changed.... I admit...was fvery hard to break the iron wall!!! But.....It were so fun! The emotion of see the iron breaking...and then when your party die inside the "cage" it regen again...ahahah what a f. hard thing but damn...so much fun! Now...since the invasion system changed (and no one can say here that it is lie) since the change...RO does not have a stable system of invasions...where fix above fix, problems above problems...and so on.... Funny is that to make those "changes" the SGM's did not consulted the online players, as the previous SGMs was used to do.... Send a chat to every single active player and ask them: "tell me, what do you think about that". This did not happened....because our own SGM's were gone.... Simple things like this (send a pm and ask the player opinion)....but that makes such a difference! and could avoid many of the problems which we have today. And now i see the movie again..... Some Horus players, maybe the same ones who once, contributed for many of those "changes" that happened in the game....Asking to move to RA. The same "english" "community". But this time....i am no longer a lvl 24 Hunter, who did not knew not even a word of english, full of energy but without a forum acc to say what I think about it. Now days i have experience to say and to see before happen...that some of the "changes" supported by some players here (old dinosaurs), only benefit them selves....and then, after they have their fun and rage quit, they just "leave it alone". I think that fuse Haven with Ra is a thing that may can work....maybe..... but this is a measure that only will help the NGD to get some oxygen to breathe and work to fix the real problem of the game. Which is the own conception of "what you want the players to do to evolve". If you keep restricting the players to do only 1 thing.....sooner or later the players will get bored. (that's the reason we don't play tetris anymore) and so many others games. In other hand, work to make the SGMs and GCs as much possible impersonal, and impersonal don't mean "not even talk with the players" quite the contrary, a SGM and GC is there to do exact that, but!....Treating even his own mother (if she play) in same way as he treat the rest of the players. Beyond that, there have alot of measures that should be taken....some of them, already said here by others members of this community... But a common point stands.....Which is...something must be done Kind Regards, Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis __________________ "in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" Last edited by Elva Hunter; 05-30-2016 at 02:48 AM.

05-30-2016, 04:33 PM	#68
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	Wrong - Horus itself was sooo amazing! __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

05-30-2016, 05:05 PM	#70
Pery3000 Master Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 386	Game Samba had good GMS until later we found out that most were corrupt ones. I also didn't like the offensive language crap they would always warn you about. HOWEVER, the events they had were always fun. __________________ Haven ~ Daggers/Miles Long Retired Ra ~ Cloaks/Elongated