The 35% onslaught is BS

[InsektO]

To clarify some things...

In the beginning, Onslaught was 25% speed boost, with 60 sec duration and 60 sec cooldown. As a barb was impossible to catch (or escape from), duration was later reduced to 45 secs, keeping the cooldown in 60. But, alternating Onslaught with Sprint (15 secs duration) in the 15 secs remaining to the 60 sec cooldown gave barbs the chance to be on speed boost all the time. And then, Onslaught was changed to as it is now, 30 sec duration, 60 sec cooldown, and 35% boost speed. So, the actual Onslaught is the first with 30 sec duration.

Anyways, I think Onslaught as it is now is ok. Gives the chance to catch hunters or barbs. And also works as a group skill to advance on an enemy group.

[Vroek]

Originally Posted by Valorius

I CLEARLY stated i was talking about PURSUITS in my first post.

PURSUITS.

How long does it take you to catch a 135% speed mage?

A looooooong time. That is SPECIFICALLY what i am talking about here. Class, please try to follow along...

No more than 60 sec unless your way too far behind to begin with!
If you use mobility he is 3.4% faster than you for 30 sec
then you are 15% faster than him for 20 sec and 40% faster the last 10 sec using mobility again

[UmarilsStillHere]

ah sorry val didnt no you were moaning about NOT catching them maybe we should re-make regnum with Val as a god who can catch escape from and kill absoluty everyone

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by zielski

? huh i have 5 lvl since... hmmm.... since afair 40. Yes i had 11 evasion, now 15, but i can live with it :P It is your choice to drop down scouting.

You are a perfect example. With your setup, you can only hit a max speed of 140% for 20 secs vs the fleeing mage at 135% for 30 secs. You have virtually no chance at all to catch an onslaughted mage.

It's simple math.

The hunter has a mere 5% closing rate with a mage now, unless he uses lvl 5 SOTW(450 mana) AND mobility(230mana). Even using that, with just a couple lag hiccups, forget about it.

You're not catching the mage.

Remember, this thread is about PURSUING ONLSLAUGHTED MAGES, nothing else.

[GIGO305]

well think about it val it is a :go get them: or :run away like hell: spell it should be like this just like invisible and SotW wich are widely abused

[UmarilsStillHere]

also y should mages be so easy to catch there running in robes and a staff?
not exacty heavy

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by Vroek

No more than 60 sec unless your way too far behind to begin with!
If you use mobility he is 3.4% faster than you for 30 sec
then you are 15% faster than him for 20 sec and 40% faster the last 10 sec using mobility again

And it works out to an average of the hunter being 4.5% faster.

4.5% is barely any kind of overtake speed at all.

THen when you factor in that the mage can use his sanc. when onslaughted without deactivating the onslaught, well, obviously catching the mage is impossible.

35% is too much, plain and simple.

[Valorius]

Originally Posted by GIGO305

well think about it val it is a :go get them: or :run away like hell: spell it should be like this just like invisible and SotW wich are widely abused

Onslaught is more than just a run away spell. Not only is it the best speedboost spell in the game, it also gives a massive group dmg bonus.

But that's besides the point for the purposes of this discussion.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Valorius

You are a perfect example. With your setup, you can only hit a max speed of 140% for 20 secs vs the fleeing mage at 135% for 30 secs. You have virtually no chance at all to catch an onslaughted mage.

It's simple math.

The hunter has a mere 5% closing rate with a mage now, unless he uses lvl 5 SOTW(450 mana) AND mobility(230mana). Even using that, with just a couple lag hiccups, forget about it.

You're not catching the mage.

Remember, this thread is about PURSUING ONLSLAUGHTED MAGES, nothing else.

new world, mages get away, so what? He needs another one to do it, if you're alone and a group escapes from you there's two things
1. They were more than you and can do whatever they like, you not catching them is not imbalance as they were more than you
2. Seriously stupid group who didn't turn around to slaughter you since it were one versus many.

Quit whining everytime you get pissed about something in game and flooding the forums with it, we don't need to watch it everytime you lose.
And put threads about skills/balance in the development section too.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Originally Posted by Angelwinged_Devil

new world, mages get away, so what? He needs another one to do it, if you're alone and a group escapes from you there's two things
1. They were more than you and can do whatever they like, you not catching them is not imbalance as they were more than you
2. Seriously stupid group who didn't turn around to slaughter you since it were one versus many.

Quit whining everytime you get pissed about something in game and flooding the forums with it, we don't need to watch it everytime you lose.
And put threads about skills/balance in the development section too.

sorted theres allways one who thinks that once they hit 50 they become an undefeatable GOD!!!! then think its the games fault if anything not to there likeing happens