RIP Conjurers - Page 7

Minorian · 10-10-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tjanex

NGD fix Ressursuction... when you get ressed you can get attacked after it immidiately...

Are you sure it was a lvl 5 rez?

Healerous · 10-10-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by doppelapfel

120s cd would be bad. Mages and especially locks could be completly useless for nearly 2 minutes if killed right after casting it.

yea true, forgot about that or even the mindsquash but but np make it passive then

ieti · 10-10-2010, 01:39 PM

Sometimes Ress sanctuary is lost around forts. This is pretty old bug. This one is alot more annoying. Right after ressurect if diziness is still active first spell you cast is lost. It casts, but effect never activates. We writed about it many times.

+1000000 for passive devotion. Most of times mages die is because devotion ended or it is Mind Squashed. You simply can not do anything in this situation. Casts are so damn long that you die before you do a single cast.

Another case is why Barbs have Mind Squash after all. This have to be knight only spell.

Gabburtjuh · 10-10-2010, 02:41 PM

i just dont agree on passive devotion, this would make locks so OP, there should be a limit to the uber casting times, i dont see barbs have passive thirst for blood or knights passive +50% ap because it makes them function way better, a mage CAN still function without devition, its just harder, like for every class, all classes have to use buffs, i could agree on conjs getting passive devo, but because its in a shared tree its impossible because of warlocks getting it.

ieti · 10-10-2010, 03:10 PM

Dutch there is limit to cast speed with new formula we got now. More you have less impact on cast times you get. I do not see how it will make warlocks OP. Both mage classes are limited now by GCD and cooldowns. You keep Devotion casted all the time anyway.

There was time long before when mages can function without it only with fast staff, but this times are long gone. I still miss that. Then locks got fast staff for casts and med 30 for terror. Conjus used only fast one with 0 devotion needed.

I really do not see how passive devotion will break balance.

Healerous · 10-10-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabburtjuh

i just dont agree on passive devotion, this would make locks so OP, there should be a limit to the uber casting times, i dont see barbs have passive thirst for blood or knights passive +50% ap because it makes them function way better, a mage CAN still function without devition, its just harder, like for every class, all classes have to use buffs, i could agree on conjs getting passive devo, but because its in a shared tree its impossible because of warlocks getting it.

barbs got passive dmg/str. knights got passive cc protection, const too. marks got passive range/dex. hunters speed/dex, mages got int/mana since mages mana reg didnt get that buffed like for other classes i see some messy here.
dont know why passive arc dev would makes locks op ( only situation is horse/dismounting, which could end pretty lame) anyways. its just annoying to recast it each 60s. id really need the 1 point of insightful somwhere else -.-

Healerous · 10-10-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ieti

Dutch there is limit to cast speed with new formula we got now. More you have less impact on cast times you get. I do not see how it will make warlocks OP. Both mage classes are limited now by GCD and cooldowns. You keep Devotion casted all the time anyway.

There was time long before when mages can function without it only with fast staff, but this times are long gone. I still miss that. Then locks got fast staff for casts and med 30 for terror. Conjus used only fast one with 0 devotion needed.

I really do not see how passive devotion will break balance.

ye id like the faststaff thing back too. even when i got the points for arc dev5 now. could use points for gh too though

anyways, there are only 2 options without changing arc dev to passive imo
1) slightly reduce castingtime of ress,life savior, gr, gh, pylon or
2) add +casting speed to sanct -.-

cmon benefit ur conjus!

p.s selfheals should get very short gcd too :/
p.p.s +1 for mindsquasher only-knight spell!

Kittypretty · 10-10-2010, 05:50 PM

id rather see arcane devotion as 100% in all levels, but varying duration (up to the max duration which would be same cd and duration)

so lower level players could at least be able to use 100% efficiency in spurts, or a more tactical usage (throwing it on before rezzing or healing, etc) i dont know if that would overpower or hinder locks though, as i dont play one, but for conj at least anything below 5 is not worth it..and gear cannot make up for that gap if you dont have enough points for level 5, or want to save some points.

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10-10-2010, 01:39 PM	#63
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	Sometimes Ress sanctuary is lost around forts. This is pretty old bug. This one is alot more annoying. Right after ressurect if diziness is still active first spell you cast is lost. It casts, but effect never activates. We writed about it many times. +1000000 for passive devotion. Most of times mages die is because devotion ended or it is Mind Squashed. You simply can not do anything in this situation. Casts are so damn long that you die before you do a single cast. Another case is why Barbs have Mind Squash after all. This have to be knight only spell. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

10-10-2010, 02:41 PM	#64
Gabburtjuh Baron Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere where grinding does NOT exist Posts: 822	i just dont agree on passive devotion, this would make locks so OP, there should be a limit to the uber casting times, i dont see barbs have passive thirst for blood or knights passive +50% ap because it makes them function way better, a mage CAN still function without devition, its just harder, like for every class, all classes have to use buffs, i could agree on conjs getting passive devo, but because its in a shared tree its impossible because of warlocks getting it. __________________ EX - Dutch Wannabe OP/Tank / Wannado Bash marks/knight/barb 60 Chuck Norris hunter 52 One Bite Snack, 60 barb / Wang King, 60 knight

10-10-2010, 03:10 PM	#65
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	Dutch there is limit to cast speed with new formula we got now. More you have less impact on cast times you get. I do not see how it will make warlocks OP. Both mage classes are limited now by GCD and cooldowns. You keep Devotion casted all the time anyway. There was time long before when mages can function without it only with fast staff, but this times are long gone. I still miss that. Then locks got fast staff for casts and med 30 for terror. Conjus used only fast one with 0 devotion needed. I really do not see how passive devotion will break balance. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

10-10-2010, 05:50 PM	#68
Kittypretty Baron Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 697	id rather see arcane devotion as 100% in all levels, but varying duration (up to the max duration which would be same cd and duration) so lower level players could at least be able to use 100% efficiency in spurts, or a more tactical usage (throwing it on before rezzing or healing, etc) i dont know if that would overpower or hinder locks though, as i dont play one, but for conj at least anything below 5 is not worth it..and gear cannot make up for that gap if you dont have enough points for level 5, or want to save some points. __________________ Taking a break from Regnum due to work leaving me little free time! So my laptop must go for now! (ask me for full details, it is an Alienware Mx18 3rd gen Ivy bridge i73920xm & configured with SLI twin Nvidia 675m, paid 3,330$ asking 2,800$ or 2,400$ + netbook.