Regarding Marksmen and SotW. - Page 8

Mattdoesrock · 06-18-2008, 12:56 AM

Eurgh..

You can't say that Sotw "failed" if you get hit, that's just BS.

If sotw were 100% evade, and you got hit, then it would have failed.

As it is now, at 80%, getting hit does not mean it has failed.

Today, my lvl 5 Mind Squasher didn't de-buff five times in a row - it's all down to luck.

BlooD · 06-18-2008, 01:00 AM

Sorry for being like this but SoW is 80% evade chance not 70%.

Source:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=14395

gamemod · 06-18-2008, 01:41 AM

Hi Community,

I had to delete several posts to avoid this thread to become a "flaming" one. Please continue with the main topic and don't reply to this message.

Regards.

Mattdoesrock · 06-18-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlooD

Sorry for being like this but SoW is 80% evade chance not 70%.

Source:
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=14395

Sorry, my mistake

Valorius · 06-18-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattdoesrock

Eurgh..

You can't say that Sotw "failed" if you get hit, that's just BS.

If you get it hit, it failed to protect you. It doesn't get any simpler than that.

BTW, i got mind squahed at pinos tonight right after i'd just got done buffing. I had to hide in the fort until all my spells cooled down. 2:00 minutes out of the fight. I did a little sniping from the walls, but with no buffs marksmen tear you to pieces in just a couple hits, so i spent most of the time recoving Hitpoints too, lol.

Inkster · 06-18-2008, 11:41 AM

There are a lot of people commenting on hunters on this thread when it was origionally a topic about Marksmen. Please keep on topic

And with regards to this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamemod

don't reply to this message.

Regards.

ok i wont :P

Vroek · 06-18-2008, 02:37 PM

I dont agree Ink!
If you claim an archer ability (I refuse to call this one a skill) is overpowered for marksmen but not for hunters?
This certainly puts hunters in the topic as well! Since people will agree or disagree with this underlying statement of your topic.
Like it or not, but you brought it up first!

Ever thought it might be DS and/or RA that is overpowered in this case?
These are the main buff/debuff that can give the +90% damage during SofW.
I like to believe 600 -800 damage is overpowered for marksmen regardless of SofW use or not.

Mage_pegusas · 06-18-2008, 04:18 PM

Even if a HUNTER is SOTW, the chances are he/she won't be able to normal hit you to death before the spell wears off anyways, so i would say that SOTW is just overpowered in the hands of marksmen, maybe it should be moved to scouting (?). Although with my lvl 40 hunter, i was able to tank 2 lvl 50 hunters + 2 lvl 50 pets last night, for around 60 seconds with SOTW + defence buffs, until reinforcements came... Food for thought?

(btw with lvl 1 dodge, i got 6 evades in a row-imba?

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_dracus_ · 06-18-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mage_pegusas

Even if a HUNTER is SOTW, the chances are he/she won't be able to normal hit you to death before the spell wears off anyways, so i would say that SOTW is just overpowered in the hands of marksmen, maybe it should be moved to scouting (?). Although with my lvl 40 hunter, i was able to tank 2 lvl 50 hunters + 2 lvl 50 pets last night, for around 60 seconds with SOTW + defence buffs, until reinforcements came... Food for thought?

(btw with lvl 1 dodge, i got 6 evades in a row-imba?

)

Imo SotW itself needs a huge rework. Today I was ambush while chating on IRC by Compoundious, Inkster and Blu Arrow. I cast SotW and killed Inkster before dying. That's uterly ridiculous to fight against 2 lvl 50 and a level 46-47 (Blu arrow?), and be able to get one of the level 50 out before the others got me.

UmarilsStillHere · 06-18-2008, 04:28 PM

SOTW is more overpowered for a marks than a hunter, partially because of death sentance + recharged arrows and also because of the marksmans extra armour meaning that dmg done is low even if u land a hit

also to many here are trying to downplay SOTW saying how often it fails and that its ONLY 80% evade...

80% is a hell of a lot, if i try to hit you 100 times then (only takeing sotw into account NOT other buffs or passives ect) i would only land 20 hits and miss 80, most fight you may akt 20 times tops? so with 70% evade only 7 hits will land (WITHOUT ANY OTHER PASSIVES OR OTHER EVADE SPELLS!)

personaly in my experiance hits under sotw are rare and often ineffective unless by some miricial you land squasher or a knock down ...

aaaanyway, we have 1000's of hunter hate threads, can we move back to marks+SOTW?

06-18-2008, 12:56 AM	#71
Mattdoesrock Count Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: England, UK. Posts: 1,055	Eurgh.. You can't say that Sotw "failed" if you get hit, that's just BS. If sotw were 100% evade, and you got hit, then it would have failed. As it is now, at 80%, getting hit does not mean it has failed. Today, my lvl 5 Mind Squasher didn't de-buff five times in a row - it's all down to luck. __________________ MattdoesJOKE_#40_NOT_FOUND RA / Hor... Haven? Last edited by Mattdoesrock; 06-18-2008 at 01:57 AM.

06-18-2008, 01:41 AM	#73
gamemod NGD·Studios Join Date: May 2008 Location: NGD Studios Posts: 508	Hi Community, I had to delete several posts to avoid this thread to become a "flaming" one. Please continue with the main topic and don't reply to this message. Regards. __________________ gamemod - ngd Studios

06-18-2008, 04:18 PM	#78
Mage_pegusas Initiate Join Date: May 2008 Location: Gone, Part time.. ETA? Unsure :( Posts: 192	Even if a HUNTER is SOTW, the chances are he/she won't be able to normal hit you to death before the spell wears off anyways, so i would say that SOTW is just overpowered in the hands of marksmen, maybe it should be moved to scouting (?). Although with my lvl 40 hunter, i was able to tank 2 lvl 50 hunters + 2 lvl 50 pets last night, for around 60 seconds with SOTW + defence buffs, until reinforcements came... Food for thought? (btw with lvl 1 dodge, i got 6 evades in a row-imba? ) __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/patrickdavidson My Youtube Channel

06-18-2008, 04:28 PM	#80
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	SOTW is more overpowered for a marks than a hunter, partially because of death sentance + recharged arrows and also because of the marksmans extra armour meaning that dmg done is low even if u land a hit also to many here are trying to downplay SOTW saying how often it fails and that its ONLY 80% evade... 80% is a hell of a lot, if i try to hit you 100 times then (only takeing sotw into account NOT other buffs or passives ect) i would only land 20 hits and miss 80, most fight you may akt 20 times tops? so with 70% evade only 7 hits will land (WITHOUT ANY OTHER PASSIVES OR OTHER EVADE SPELLS!) personaly in my experiance hits under sotw are rare and often ineffective unless by some miricial you land squasher or a knock down ... aaaanyway, we have 1000's of hunter hate threads, can we move back to marks+SOTW? __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

06-18-2008, 01:00 AM	#72
BlooD Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,145	Sorry for being like this but SoW is 80% evade chance not 70%. Source: http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=14395

06-18-2008, 02:37 PM	#77
Vroek Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 890	I dont agree Ink! If you claim an archer ability (I refuse to call this one a skill) is overpowered for marksmen but not for hunters? This certainly puts hunters in the topic as well! Since people will agree or disagree with this underlying statement of your topic. Like it or not, but you brought it up first! Ever thought it might be DS and/or RA that is overpowered in this case? These are the main buff/debuff that can give the +90% damage during SofW. I like to believe 600 -800 damage is overpowered for marksmen regardless of SofW use or not.