RO Segfault

[Nightchill]

Originally Posted by Syd_Vicious

Unfortunately it seems to almost be reverting to that way since distros like Arch are refusing to carry the ATI drivers. I'm not saying ditch ATI and go buy NVIDIA I am just saying you guys maybe in for a bumpy ride until it all gets sorted out.

yep. arch locked out ati from their repos. actually, AUR still has them but with ati dropping support with 9.4 drivers for R300 and earlier and xorg 1.6 moved to extras that makes it almost impossible to put 9.3 drivers on because they don't support xorg 1.6 and downgrading to 1.5 would break lots of deps and require a downgrade of numerous other packages. it's a cluster fuck i tell ya. stinkin ati.

[onemyndseye]

To revive this topic and air out alittle more info while I try to peice together a attempt at a workaround...

Today I installed mesa, the radeon/ati xorg packages, and kernel from Hardy (using dpkg-repack) into intrepid effectively downgrading the peices that were the suspected "causes" of this issue.... and..

Guest what?? SEGFAULT :/

I suppose the X server itself then... :/ Or incompatibilities between packages caused it to SEGFAULT for another reason... after looking at the depends and the poritons of packages I would have to repack my head exploded and I finally decided it was time for bed lol Maybe tonight I will try this though I do not view it as a practical solution.. IF it works there will be a significant amount of package pinning to do to make sure apt/dpkg doesnt bug the piss outa you about somewhere in the range of 100 packages that NEEEEEEED to be upgraded

A long time ago I made a script for dpkg-repacking an entire running system... I think I will put it to use tonight I try downgrading a piece at a time --- *shrug* if you cant work forwards .. work backwards. .. As stated I think even if it works this is a shit solution because for instance.. the 2.6.24 kernel has crappy support for my WiFi so installing it effecting breaks my working WiFi under intrepid. (it works as well as it does now running under Hardy at least) .. however it maybe shed some light on the offending parts

[Wintershade]

Originally Posted by Nightchill

yep. arch locked out ati from their repos. actually, AUR still has them but with ati dropping support with 9.4 drivers for R300 and earlier and xorg 1.6 moved to extras that makes it almost impossible to put 9.3 drivers on because they don't support xorg 1.6 and downgrading to 1.5 would break lots of deps and require a downgrade of numerous other packages. it's a cluster fuck i tell ya. stinkin ati.

The sole fact that Arch (and some other) have dropped the ATi proprietary driver from the repos is not the main problem; the main problem is why those drivers were dropped.
AMD/ATi developers are not taking the Linux driver seriously at all. I am an owner of an ATi Mobility Radeon 9700 graphics card, and 80% of the drivers AMD had released has brought me nothing but trouble. Version 9.3 worked (mostly) fine (either that or I just got used to it), and then they dropped support for my chipset. Now, 9.3 is a no-go for me, since I'm running Xorg server 1.6 and kernel 2.6.29 (Arch Linux FTW ). And I don't intend to break my whole system just because a few sloppy developers can't write two lines of quality code.

Originally Posted by Syd_Vicious

I'm not saying ditch ATI and go buy NVIDIA

I am. And I believe every intelligent Linux user who understands the terms under which this had happened to him will agree with me.

Think about it in the following manner: ATi and you had an agreement. Your side of it was to pay good money for the hardware. You did that. Their side was to give you hardware which works. They declared it works under Windows and Linux. It was documented. It was their part of the deal. Did they live up to it? I don't think so.

OTOH, how many problems do nVidia users have? OK, so they do have a few problems, but not even remotely as much as ATi users do. So yes, ditch ATi and buy nVidia. It's better. Period.



Back to the topic, any news on the segfault solution or workaround? I've just installed the game on Linux (version 1.0.5 it seems), and I'm segfaulting, despite all of the workarounds mentioned here. What gives?
Are there any logs I should look for and post them here?

Thanks in advance

[onemyndseye]

Amen

Please contact me my PM and tell me what it happening when you try the chroot method.. this SHOULD work for you