Alsius Horus status - Page 8

ArchmagusArcana · 07-04-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Klutu

Alsuis was in the middle of killing the Dragon just because a realm touched our fort we are supose to stop dead in our tracks let them put the gate in danger no gems and we know syrtis would not have enough to do anything

That is the advantage of not having a gem, its give you a lot of freedom to take more risks, such as going after other forts, even when others have yours, or yes, finishing off a dragon so that maybe we can get a decent drop or two to help even out the gross realm imbalance. Alisus needs to have SOME sort of edge, and if finishing killing off a dragon when the gates are in danger (when we have no gems to take) is what takes then that is what it takes. It would be different if we had gems, but we didn't. Besides, farming people at a gate isn't a lot of work and rather enjoyable. it gives us an chance to coordinate teamwork and maybe get a bit of a morale boost out of it.

To Alsian Mage. I dont usually directly make negative comments to people on here as i feel its rude and unprofessional, but grow up, seriously. If you dont like the way that we play, go somewhere else, we dont need tattle tales in alsius, especially when its an internal issue and a matter of choice, not cheating, not poor sportsmanship, not glitching. Its a game, not kindergarten.

DkySven · 07-04-2009, 04:00 PM

Alsius mage, shouldn't you be at the gate, defending, instead of taking screenshots then?

Comp · 07-04-2009, 05:39 PM

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Majority of Alsius seems not very interested in helping defend the realm and that is sad. Most would rather grind in hopes to find better equipment or loot the dragon stuff. I'm sorry to say this...that equipment isn't gonig to make you better....playing and fighting will make you better.

I'm sad to say that members of the clan I belong to CONSTANTLY respond to my requests for assistance with "I'm grinding..." Or "I'm looking for higher level armor".

I suppose this is why I'm interested in starting my own clan....defend alsius from invaders.....and actually play this game for what it's meant to be.

Envy · 07-04-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarus

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Syrtis did the exact same thing a while back, no one batted an eyelid about it. In fact a defense for them not trying to retake the forts was "We weren't grinding, but kill Vesper".

Not to say this is right, just that the other realms are no different in this aspect and this isn't something they can take a moral high ground on.

Paradosa · 07-04-2009, 06:31 PM

I'm really angry and really disappointed about Horus Alsius today.
This supposed to be war game - fight for your realm, lands, forts, pride etc...
But today alsius showed its real face - most Alsius players don't care about realm, just for grind, drops, their rp, which means nothing.... They just found perfect excuse - "we dont have gems"
We don't have those gems for weeks and seems that will not have soon. It's sad that your realm mates don't want to fight in WAR game.

All this thread was about Alsius are few, need bonuses to get better etc etc. I would say - remove bonuses or even give -xp to force those lazy grinders go to war zone. Alsius don't need help in that way, we need to change attitude.

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Paradosa

w_larsen · 07-04-2009, 07:02 PM

there would be nothing wrong with grinding people or pacifists or whatever, but on low populated server like horus is and even lower populated alsius, one or two players can make major difference. and that's where horus dramas originates from. 20% of 100 players is far less important than 20% of 10 players.

judging by spawned guards it seems that luckly for alsius, some syrts had "they have no gems" attitude too, and didn't come to attack gate (few more barbs would make it a success, because there were almost no defenders, when syrtis actually got to gate).

speaking of "no gems" argument... i do believe that this game is about war, not gems and invasions are placed only to give reason for war, because if we think about it - only one option gives any direct advantage in war, and the advantage is only for one player.

of course +xp gives some indirect advantage too, as leveling is bit faster, but it is bit like "in unknown future, when one reaches lvl X, he will come to wz (and not just start an alt)..." it doesn't change situation at hand.

e30G · 07-04-2009, 07:05 PM

Actually, Syrtis did come to the gate.... But it was a small party (that took both castle and fort) and they had no conjurers. I can tell you there was real intent for them to invade, and harass levelers. I did not join them. I logged out cause I got bored and decided to test in Amun.

ArchmagusArcana · 07-04-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by w_larsen

there would be nothing wrong with grinding people or pacifists or whatever, but on low populated server like horus is and even lower populated alsius, one or two players can make major difference. and that's where horus dramas originates from. 20% of 100 players is far less important than 20% of 10 players.

judging by spawned guards it seems that luckly for alsius, some syrts had "they have no gems" attitude too, and didn't come to attack gate (few more barbs would make it a success, because there were almost no defenders, when syrtis actually got to gate).

speaking of "no gems" argument... i do believe that this game is about war, not gems and invasions are placed only to give reason for war, because if we think about it - only one option gives any direct advantage in war, and the advantage is only for one player.

of course +xp gives some indirect advantage too, as leveling is bit faster, but it is bit like "in unknown future, when one reaches lvl X, he will come to wz (and not just start an alt)..." it doesn't change situation at hand.

I cannot speak to the amount of guards that were on at that time, or what the situation was, as i was probably sleeping (since almost all invasion attempts seem to take place when im either sleeping or working, which really really sucks), but really, morale is so very low in alsius right now that i dont really blame them for not bothering. Sad but true.

Its hard as hell to get people to try to go take a fort, and its almost always done within clan for me since people would rather hunt or pvp, saying 'we dont have the people'. We never ever had that attitude in RA, even when we are outnumbered, and really, its invasions that have caused this attitude to begin with. People seem to think that if you cannot invade there is no point in taking forts or castles, so if there are not enough people to invade, people wont bother to take a fort, let alone a castle.

I happen to like fort wars, i prefer them to just about anything else (defending realm gate is fun from time to time if its a balanced fight, and hunting is nice too sometimes just to relieve the tedium of a dead warzone), but invasions have all but ruined them. I really dislike taking back a fort, but since alsius never wants to attack, its about all the forting we have left.

That is another 'advantage to not having gems', we can, and should, be far more bold and aggressive with harassing our enemies. As far as game advantages go, we have nothing to lose, and a chance to gain our gems back (let alone be a real pain in the ass to other realms that are trying to invade each other). If i can get even 4 or 5 other people to come with me to go take a fort, ill happily do it....Once we have it in our possession for a while people do seem to slowly trickle in to help defend it; it just seems we need to get that initial push going to take it in the first place.

ArchmagusArcana · 07-04-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarus

The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done.

Majority of Alsius seems not very interested in helping defend the realm and that is sad. Most would rather grind in hopes to find better equipment or loot the dragon stuff. I'm sorry to say this...that equipment isn't gonig to make you better....playing and fighting will make you better.

I'm sad to say that members of the clan I belong to CONSTANTLY respond to my requests for assistance with "I'm grinding..." Or "I'm looking for higher level armor".

I suppose this is why I'm interested in starting my own clan....defend alsius from invaders.....and actually play this game for what it's meant to be.

The reason that a lot of people do this is because its not even a little bit fun to try to take back a for with 5 or 6 people (usually the same 5 or 6 when im there) versus 15-20. Its pointless and demoralizing. And sadly, yes better equipment does give you and edge. The old days in Ra, you could tell a good player from bad very easily as there was no special or epic items to give a bad player an advantage and the poor player, unless very lucky tended to die very fast.

As to grinding. Not all of us have level 50 characters, grinding is boring as hell and if you get in a good party and its going fast, i see no reason why you should have to stop just because someone else needs your help. Grinding is part of the game too and if thats what people want to do, its their right to do it. On my knight (first char) i spent a lot of time at lower levels in the wz, same as on my barb (second char). When i got to my lock, my grind setup was incompatible with war, so if i had to war id switch to barb. Not all players have this luxury. That being said, i do agree that it does get frustrating when all you need are one or two people and out of the 10 you ask, all of them are busy doing other things.

Ask me if you need help taking a fort or defending a fort, unless ive made prior commitments to help someone with a quest ill help you almost every single time. Nothing better than stirring up a little war zone action. We did it together in Ra and I would love nothing more than to do it here in Horus with you as well.

Paradosa · 07-04-2009, 07:40 PM

I go to enemies forts only occasionally because of that "no gems" attitude.
When we loose enemy fort i usually find myself alone or just few players defending our forts. Usually force we had in enemy fort goes grinding and not defending our forts.
When i started playing in Alsius war zone it was different. Alsius loved fort wars, we were going to enemies forts to have fun, but players did defend our forts.

So, if players with that "no gems" attitude asking me join to fort wars, i choose to not go with them....

07-04-2009, 04:00 PM	#72
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Alsius mage, shouldn't you be at the gate, defending, instead of taking screenshots then? __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

07-04-2009, 05:39 PM	#73
Comp Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jippy's Mom's House Posts: 1,286	The Dragon and Thorkul are why alsius is a bit of a joke to the other realms. Seriously Alsius...if your forts are taken - have some pride take them back....Dragon and thorkul will be there when your done. Majority of Alsius seems not very interested in helping defend the realm and that is sad. Most would rather grind in hopes to find better equipment or loot the dragon stuff. I'm sorry to say this...that equipment isn't gonig to make you better....playing and fighting will make you better. I'm sad to say that members of the clan I belong to CONSTANTLY respond to my requests for assistance with "I'm grinding..." Or "I'm looking for higher level armor". I suppose this is why I'm interested in starting my own clan....defend alsius from invaders.....and actually play this game for what it's meant to be. __________________ Compost (60 Hunter) Alsius Compoundious (Dead and gone...)

07-04-2009, 07:05 PM	#77
e30G Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,244	Actually, Syrtis did come to the gate.... But it was a small party (that took both castle and fort) and they had no conjurers. I can tell you there was real intent for them to invade, and harass levelers. I did not join them. I logged out cause I got bored and decided to test in Amun. __________________ I N Q U I S I T I O N On Regnum Sabbatical

07-04-2009, 06:31 PM	#75
Paradosa Pledge Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11	I'm really angry and really disappointed about Horus Alsius today. This supposed to be war game - fight for your realm, lands, forts, pride etc... But today alsius showed its real face - most Alsius players don't care about realm, just for grind, drops, their rp, which means nothing.... They just found perfect excuse - "we dont have gems" We don't have those gems for weeks and seems that will not have soon. It's sad that your realm mates don't want to fight in WAR game. All this thread was about Alsius are few, need bonuses to get better etc etc. I would say - remove bonuses or even give -xp to force those lazy grinders go to war zone. Alsius don't need help in that way, we need to change attitude. --------- Paradosa

07-04-2009, 07:02 PM	#76
w_larsen Initiate Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 111	there would be nothing wrong with grinding people or pacifists or whatever, but on low populated server like horus is and even lower populated alsius, one or two players can make major difference. and that's where horus dramas originates from. 20% of 100 players is far less important than 20% of 10 players. judging by spawned guards it seems that luckly for alsius, some syrts had "they have no gems" attitude too, and didn't come to attack gate (few more barbs would make it a success, because there were almost no defenders, when syrtis actually got to gate). speaking of "no gems" argument... i do believe that this game is about war, not gems and invasions are placed only to give reason for war, because if we think about it - only one option gives any direct advantage in war, and the advantage is only for one player. of course +xp gives some indirect advantage too, as leveling is bit faster, but it is bit like "in unknown future, when one reaches lvl X, he will come to wz (and not just start an alt)..." it doesn't change situation at hand.

07-04-2009, 07:40 PM	#80
Paradosa Pledge Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11	I go to enemies forts only occasionally because of that "no gems" attitude. When we loose enemy fort i usually find myself alone or just few players defending our forts. Usually force we had in enemy fort goes grinding and not defending our forts. When i started playing in Alsius war zone it was different. Alsius loved fort wars, we were going to enemies forts to have fun, but players did defend our forts. So, if players with that "no gems" attitude asking me join to fort wars, i choose to not go with them....