Conjuror shortage

[Spud]

Originally Posted by Necrovarus

Define 'effectively' then please. It would appear that your view of it is different to ours. Quite obviously.

To you, effectively is getting the most rp and becoming the highest ranked conjuror in regnum, no?

No "effectively" in my opinion is getting an equal part of the exp that is gained from all team players.

For is this not a team play game?

(And for what it's worth the 10% dmg rule is ineffective in regards with my definition as well.)

[ncvr]

Originally Posted by Spud

No "effectively" in my opinion is getting an equal part of the exp that is gained from all team players.

For is this not a team play game?

(And for what it's worth the 10% dmg rule is ineffective in regards with my definition as well.)

The 10% rule is stuffed up, that is what prevents you from playing "effectively".

[DkySven]

The 10% rule for xp is a pain for conjurers, yes. But I don't think that 2% rule for rp causes that much problems. Xzorstlok is #30 on the rp ranking list and Lord Victor is #10. I don't how supporting Lord Victor is, but Xzor is full support.

[ncvr]

We just happen to have a warjuror being the highest ranked conjuror in Syrtis, though(Enatim)...

[daehenob]

Originally Posted by asdfghs

The 10% rule for xp is a pain for conjurers, yes. But I don't think that 2% rule for rp causes that much problems. Xzorstlok is #30 on the rp ranking list and Lord Victor is #10. I don't how supporting Lord Victor is, but Xzor is full support.

Kinda invalid points, as these two (I"m sure) have been 50 forever, and /way/ before the changes to exp/RP calculation. I'm not saying they aren't good conjurers, they just had their "glory days" before everything was changed.

[DkySven]

Aah, yes. You're right. I forget that.

[Valorius]

Conjurors are crucial to the outcome of battle. I do my best to always thank them for revives/buffs/heals/mana(even during battle), and again afterwards.

As Legolas I whined, "Without 3 conjurors backing her Valorius is nothing."

Well, maybe, but those conjurors DO back me, and i am most thankful for it.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Originally Posted by Spud

Anyone who believes this statement is a fool

maybe you're the fool because you generalise?
I'd really be playing with such a guy rather than someone who just plays for the rp. I'd chose personal values over rp ANY time.
I've seen suggestions about rp being of some kind of use to buy things in the future, but haven't seen an official response from ngd, besides it'll just give a greater temptation for rp leeching and bad playing.
This statement is pretty pessimistic in people

And since this truth has now been exposed, NDG you can now lock the thread!

the truth is not one opinion dude.

btw what have the conjurers won? Please explain

Originally Posted by spud

Why, because the goal of the game, as it stands today, is to gain exp and rp.

That is NOT the goal, maybe for some people but not for everyone. Sorry but you are stupid because you fail to recognize that other players have an opinion too as you can see in the later posts.

In a battle I don't really care about rp, I care about playing effectively, having fun, putting up a good fight and giving my enemies a challenge as much as seeking a challenge myself.
With a good conjurer to support an army they can multiply it. I often ask for a bless from a conjurer right before I cast sultars because it then has a bigger chance of hitting the opposing army, that's teamwork. Then the "rp" doesn't really matter if we did put up a good fight and did a lot of teamwork.

[e30G]

Originally Posted by Spud

No "effectively" in my opinion is getting an equal part of the exp that is gained from all team players.

For is this not a team play game?

(And for what it's worth the 10% dmg rule is ineffective in regards with my definition as well.)

I'm not so sure of XP but as far as RP goes, I am sure we get an equal and fair share. I know I do when I want to go after RP. Contrary to my "Retired" status in my signature, I still play several times per week.

However it's hardly a good way playing efficiently with the more immediate goal: Keeping yourself and your team alive. Even when I'm playing this way, I still get a fair share of RP. It is still more than what I would get if I were playing as a warjurer. Getting 14 or more rps for a kill where you did not do anything other than spam an area buff is in no way fair both to yourself and others.

Originally Posted by Spud

I guess you are a fool, for as it stands today a conjurer that helps his teammates is not playing 100% effectively.

Why, because the goal of the game, as it stands today, is to gain exp and rp.

If that's the case, then I'd rather be a fool than fail my friends just for a few extra points.

Originally Posted by Spud

To make such a statement fails realize 3 things:
(2) Your stance is counter productive for most conj's and in fact is not an acceptable solution to the impasse we face today.

The RP system is working fine if that's all you're after. However, I can not comment with XP since it has been a while since I have gone grinding to level. But from what I can tell from 2 months ago, I still got xp from helping my clan mates level. If they changed that system then I agree its wrong.

Originally Posted by Spud

And (3), in order for us to move past this impasse the best solution would be to give a benefit to the conj for engaging in team play and one that is better then what can be gained from solo.

I agree with you here. However, this is a complicated matter which involves both how you and others play (and you made it clear that you can't dictate that) and the game system itself.

Originally Posted by Spud

Until all see this, there really isn't a need to discuss the issue is there?

Yes because we haven't come up with that solution. Instead of calling people who have no regard for RP as a goal a fool, perhaps you can come up with a solution that works.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

well said ernest