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Old 02-03-2009, 09:37 AM   #81
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Conjuerors gets a lot of XP in grinding party with no need to spent a lot of money on repairing items or buying arrows. They often need not even to move.

What are u talking about??? It is your ability. It is one of the BASIS powers in battle. So it is your job.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:54 AM   #82
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personally as conju i like to help my friends, this make me feel important for the battle, but im still a person, it could happens that i make mistakes (like everyone), so i apologoze if i made mistakes. But this doesnt mean that i have not done my best, i always try to do that. And i must thanks people who try to defend me while im "working".
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:28 PM   #83
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well, it's been a while since i played, and i mean to remedy that soon, but i always thought i had the best tactics as a conjuror.

1) team mates: human shields. it is usefull to keep them alive as long as you can, they are effective at stopping arrows and swords, not so good at stopping spells. remember, they are disposable, you are not.

2) wars: a bigger human shield, see above.

3) it's ok to run away and leave everyone to die.

4) considering number 3, it is a good idea to let me focus on healing and mana restoration without constantly bugging me, if you constantly scream at me or pm me, the easiest way to stop you is to let you die.

i pretty much stood at the back of the group and focused on who *I* thought needed health and mana, not who was shouting loudest. anyone who thinks i *have* to heal them will be given a free trip back to the rez marker, courtesy of kissmyass airways.

of course, if you dont like it, you dont *have* to hang with me, you can go and make your own conjuror......
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Old 02-03-2009, 12:35 PM   #84
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ZOMG ZIDANE!!!!!

Man you're posts are still as hilarious as ever!
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:17 PM   #85
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omg ziddie <3
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:27 PM   #86
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Conjuerors gets a lot of XP in grinding party with no need to spent a lot of money on repairing items or buying arrows. They often need not even to move.

What are u talking about??? It is your ability. It is one of the BASIS powers in battle. So it is your job.
If I recall previous threads correctly conjurers don't get much XP from grinding in parties.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:49 PM   #87
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If I recall previous threads correctly conjurers don't get much XP from grinding in parties.
Conjus get nice xp from grinding in a party only if they use SM + Zarkit + MC. Healing only when needed (lvl 15). It also make sense to use enchantments (esp Bless weapon) instead of zarkit for party grinding, but grinding solo with this setup (without zarkit) will be slower.

I agree that pure support conju without sensible dmg dealing get almost no xp in party grinding.
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Old 02-04-2009, 04:50 PM   #88
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Conjus get nice xp from grinding in a party only if they use SM + Zarkit + MC. Healing only when needed (lvl 15). It also make sense to use enchantments (esp Bless weapon) instead of zarkit for party grinding, but grinding solo with this setup (without zarkit) will be slower.

I agree that pure support conju without sensible dmg dealing get almost no xp in party grinding.
The trick I found is in the timing. For example, suppose your conjurer is partied with three other people. If you heal a friend before they hit the mob, you get no XP for that spell. If you heal your friend after the mob is dead, you get no XP for that spell. Your spell must affect the person during the fight. This can be very tricky when leveling with a barbarian who kills a mob in 1 or 2 hits.

Here's how I do it. First, use a summon when leveling. Double-click the mob so the summon will start attacking. This will get you some credit for damage dealing. Don't bother trying to do damage spells, just let your summon do that for you, as you concentrate on supporting your friends. Wait to use your heals until right after your friend hits the mob, so you get credit for that too. Always keep a regen going on someone, because that spell will continue to get you credit throughout the duration of the spell.

Keep mana communion going. Cast it the moment it comes out of cool-down. When it isn't running, or if you don't have this spell yet, give some of your mana to your friends. Also give Bless/Bless Weapon/+Dex/+Str/+Int buffs. But again, the critical factor for grinding is to cast these after your friend hits the mob, and before the mob dies.

If you have Greater Healing, alternate this spell with Mana Communion. That way you can have area buffs going about 75% of the time with just two spells. Easy XP. However, if I'm grinding in the warzone, I will often save Greater Healing for when we get jumped by enemies from another realm.

Not only will these strategies get you better XP, but you will be gaining experience in how to effectively fight other players in a group.

Oh, if you are from Syrtis or Ignis, ignore everything I said.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:18 PM   #89
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@octopus:
I think you're right in most of what you've written. Still I think grinding with SM + Zarkit is more effective. Let me point a few things:
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For example, suppose your conjurer is partied with three other people.
I play on Horus. It's sometimes hard to find ppl for party grinding in high levels. It mostly depends on the time, especially in night time when I mostly play (after midnight GMT time).
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This can be very tricky when leveling with a barbarian who kills a mob in 1 or 2 hits.
Party with 3 other ppl rarely have conju + 3 warriors . In party with mages and archers SM setup is the best. Beside, in such a party healing isn't necessary - mobs just don't have a chance to hit any1.
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if I'm grinding in the warzone
On Horus party grinding in warzone is totally safe . Only solo grinders (sometimes me) can be afraid.
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Oh, if you are from Syrtis or Ignis, ignore everything I said.
Hahaha. I'm from Ignis lol. Ignis isn't that bad as you think ;P. But really, I like your post.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:50 AM   #90
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When i am fighting i do not exspect to be healed or resed all the time.
if i am healed or resed i concider it a bonus to me.
That said i am lucky enough to play along side of some of the best conj's in the game.
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